A-37Dragonfly

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Twin canopy aircraft

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Twin canopy aircraft

Thanks for setting up this category. Really fun topic.

Some years ago I found this online photo [1] of a Laister-Kauffman LK-10 Flat-top glider. Unfortunately, I've forgotten exactly where on the internet it had come from.

At the J2mcL website, their entry on the LK-10 Flat Top happens to make mention of a "2-bubble Flat-Top" ("un Flat-Top à 2 bulles"), a photo of which had appeared in Soaring magazine. That's almost certainly the source of that image, but can't confirm that.

BTW, I have set up a few aviation-related categories myself; including Unflown aircraft and Aircraft flown once, plus Standing pilot aircraft. Feel free to help expand them out, if you happen to know of any machines which should be listed there, but have yet to be. Cheers, Paul

07:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC) Aerohydro (talk) 07:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, it's the first category I've made. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 17:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

There's also a very recently announced plane, the XRQ-73, it hasn't flown yet but it would be a good article, and would for some time be put into 2 of your categories (temporarily). It is an electric flying wing announced by DARPA A-37Dragonfly (talk) 17:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

This may also require searching using book sources, I have not been able to find any other images of this aircraft, (twin canopy in particular) this was likely a one-off aircraft, such as the Yak-110, but may have only flown locally/flown once/handful of times so it was not noted often A-37Dragonfly (talk) 17:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

Good to hear back from you. I seem to go in fit-and-starts regarding what I do on Wikipedia. For a long time I just applied categories to existing articles, as I found that interesting, then moved onto actually creating categories when I realised there was a 'gap' in what was listed within Wikipedia.

I've been doing some searching regarding the twin canopy Laister-Kauffman TG-4 / LK.10 glider. I may have ID'ed the actual machine. Here is a link for the "Sailplane and Gliding" issue for December 1960 - | pdf. About half way down page 339, there is a reference to an Australian-based example: "An interesting glider there was a converted L.K. 10a owned by Ric New. Instead of the all-in-one canopy he has had fitted two bubble canopies, one of which can be removed and replaced by a fairing."

That specific machine still survives - though without the twin canopies - and today is in the Australian Gliding Museum: webpage photo

So ... progress made ... but more progress still needs to be made! Cheers, Paul

Aerohydro (talk) 05:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

It seems we will need to do 3 things, find enough info to create a variants section, then create a redirect to that specific variant, or just the variants section, also, I've seen alot of your articles now, and I do not believe your meant to italicize the title like lets say you make the Mooney M18 article, that would look like Mooney M-18 Mite if you made it, but most dont italicize, thats all A-37Dragonfly (talk) 07:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I would also look on google books, that helped alot with my own article, the Henschel P.75, by the way, I can add some placeholder diagrams/drawings for your articles if you want, and also de-italicize them. A-37Dragonfly (talk) 07:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Additionally, you should look into joining a wikiproject, looking at your main page, you could join WP:Aircraft, but it seems there isnt one for categories and biographies A-37Dragonfly (talk) 07:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@A-37Dragonfly Thanks for the reply. I agree about needing to get more information about the variant/s before adding a section to the Laister-Kaufmann article. Still trying to locate the original Soaring article, from which that twin-canopy photo may've come from.

I understand your point about my using italics. Some articles about one-off aircraft (like the MacCready Gossamer Condor and the Dallas Spirit), where the aircraft name is also the model name, use italics. For those articles I've done about one-off machines, I'm comfortable leaving them as is but, if you want to amend them, do so. Also have been looking at using small fair-use (or rather non-free use) images to help illustrate the articles, but need to navigate my way through guidelines for those. NFERG. Will probably select small/low-res images. One of the many things which is on my "to-do" list!

Regarding source material - I have PDFs of the first 41 issues of The Aviation Historian. It's a very Anglo/Euro-centric aviation magazine; if there is anything in there which you'd be interested in, please let me know. website and index (pdf)

I've also added a few new entries to the Twin Canopy category: DH Sea Vixen + Northrop YN-35 + Northrop YB-49 + NRC tailless glider + Westland PV.7. All of them fit the definition of the category, but perhaps not your intent for it.

Regards, Paul

05:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC) Aerohydro (talk) 05:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)