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Happy editing! JesseRafe (talk) 12:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018

Hello, I'm ToBeFree. I noticed that in this edit to A Man Will Rise, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:00, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, 213.240.254.19. You have new messages at ToBeFree's talk page.
Message added 16:34, 18 October 2018 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:34, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, 213.240.254.19. You have new messages at ToBeFree's talk page.
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~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:00, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

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Again, welcome! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Cop Land, you may be blocked from editing. The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 16:14, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hi TheOldJacobite

This message has caused a confused call for help to be added to my talk page, at User_talk:ToBeFree#Part_2. I think it would be helpful if you could

• link to the specific edit you're complaining about, and take a moment to explain in easy English why,
• provide reasons when undoing edits, instead of using the "VANDAL" button of Twinkle for good-faith contributions?

Looking at Special:UserRights/TheOldJacobite seems to indicate that this has been an repeated issue since 2009.

Thanks! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:22, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

The repeated addition of the same incorrect content cannot be construed as good faith. The names in the cast list are as credited, which is clearly stated in a hidden comment at the top of the section. Having to repeatedly remove incorrect information is tedious, especially when it's the same user who repeatedly adds it. At what point would you call it vandalism? ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 00:40, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

I am unsure about the "same user" statement; the IP addresses 83.228.19.233 and 213.240.254.19 appear to be coming from multiple different internet providers of Bulgaria. 2605:e000:248f:4a00:dcb9:1202:27fa:995 appears to be coming from the United States. The specific IP here has only edited the article once. I think that there may be a common misconception, and that multiple people are trying to fix what they believe to be an error. It may be reasonable to request page protection if the issue is persistent.

About vandalism, I do see that you have not used a "vandalism" warning, and "disruptive" does seem to be a good description. In this specific case, there seems to have been an issue with an unreliable source. The "uw-unsourced-1" or "uw-unsourced-2" templates may be useful here, with a short manual explanation that "a third-party product sold via Amazon is not a reliable source for a statement that is better sourced by the movie credits themselves."

The following edits seem to have been made in good faith: Example 1, Example 2.

I think that the HTML comment solution at Special:Diff/864863849 is a very good idea. Maybe it should also contain a short explanation how to verify this (movie credits at minute X? Manual of Style section?), to prevent skeptical users from replacing it by an unreliable reference.

Have a nice day, you two. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:03, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

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