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My bad 🥴. I searched it up and it's not as common as I thought it was. Sorry about my bad suggestions recently, I was using a laptop and was suggesting more for the sake of it from successful requests. 1ctinus (talk) 21:22, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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heya! if you'd like to make the link green (or some other color) as well, feel free to use this: [[Bill Wurtz|{{font|color=#0f0|text=bill wurtz}}]] (bill wurtz) Vukky^🌞 (talk • not a bot) 19:06, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Sounds.. plausible. i will make it a lighter green. 1ctinus📝🗨 19:08, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

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Just wanted to say hi, I noticed we were both working on User:Uhai/Pages_without_short_descriptions_by_view_count when I was about to add an SD to an article on the list and saw you already did so before the bot updated the page. Urban Versis 32^KB ⚡ ^{(talk / contribs)} 02:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

sounds correct -1ctinus📝🗨 02:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Short descriptions

Hey there, I wanted to ask: what do you feel is the utility of a short description like the one on Foreign relations of China? I realize I might've spent today undoing a lot of your work, and I want to cool it immediately if I'm not helping. Remsense诉 12:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

The utility is to differentiate between articles that are missing a short description and don’t need a short description. Some articles don’t need a short description if their titles are self-describing, such as “foreign relations of china”. see this page for more information -1ctinus📝🗨 12:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Right, I agree! I ask because you re-added a short description to that page a few days ago, and I was about to set it to "none" before I noticed. Remsense诉 12:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

My basic criteria is that if i can’t make a short description that isn’t just the title arraigned in a different way with the same words, it should be blank. -1ctinus📝🗨 12:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox referendum

Hello - re your addition of a default description of simply 'referendum', would it not be better to follow WP:SDNONE and have a short description which was the same as the article title (which in all cases, will be more detailed than just 'referendum'). Cheers, Number 57 00:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Not all Referendums have "Referendum" in their title name. WP:SDNONE would not apply for those articles. That being said, with referendums that have "referendum" in their title it would, and that could be coded into the template to have a switch case for "none" for articles with "Referendum" in their title, and a year to go alongside it. I might program both but dealing with the wikitext code is super annoying and time consuming. -1ctinus📝🗨 00:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@Number 57  Done -1ctinus📝🗨 01:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Having mulled it over some more, there are other quite important issues, the first one being quite serious:

1. The infobox is used on quite a lot of non-referendum articles (like 51st state or Inverness Caledonian Thistle F.C.) and you are giving such articles an incorrect short description if there is not one there already
2. Articles that use the infobox include referendums, plebiscites and ballot measures. A short description of "referendum" is not appropriate for plebiscites as in some countries that has a different legal meaning to a referendum (and will look weird in other cases – readers may be thinking 'Why is the article title 'plebiscite' but the description 'referendum'?')
3. I'm also not sure 'referendum' is an appropriate short description for ballot measures?

Based on these issues, I think it might actually be best to abandon using the infobox to add a short description? Number 57 01:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Number 1 is addressed in the code by Is infobox in lead. Number 2 and 3 are serious concerns that I don't know how to deal with since I do not know the difference between those terms. A more broad term might be useful. It also might be more useful to put this discussion in the Template talk instead of my user page. -1ctinus📝🗨 02:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

WT:E&R is probably the best place to discuss, but for now I would advise removing it from the template code. Cheers, Number 57 02:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)