176.247.159.174

Pinged editors

It appears that I unintentionally pinged a lot of people, so if you are here for that, I'm sorry (I intended to leave a clearer and more polite talk page message later). Anyway here is a list of older talk page protections and another with newer ones with an unprotected mainspace article. What I am asking you to do is to find protections relevant to you by searching your username, reconsider if the protection is still needed and leave a comment if you considered the matter and left the protection in place. I'm checking the list from time to time, so if you change the protection on the talk page or the respective article there is no need to reply, I'll just remove the entry when I notice the change. Again, apologies for the ping.176.247.159.174 (talk) 00:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Indefinite talk page protection list

contacted Talk:Keith Henson .... User:Prioryman

contacted Talk:Sol Trujillo (Solomon) .... User:Alison active, no requests

Talk:Chester Yorton .... User:SlimVirgin deceased, no requests

Talk:Perizaad Zorabian .... User:Shell Kinney retired, mainspace unprotected

Talk:Fashion Bomb .... User:FloNight active, request in 2018, not clear

Talk:Kimber James .... User:Courcelles active, no requests

Talk:Duchy of San Donato (Duke of San Donato) .... User:Courcelles no requests

Talk:Illeana Douglas .... User:Fred Bauder active, no requests

contacted, not administrator, refused to comment Talk:Yelena Dembo .... User:Jclemens active, no requests

Talk:Chaz Bono .... User:Reaper Eternal active, several requests to protect the now unprotected mainspace article

Talk:Alison Weir .... User:Courcelles no requests, something for Alison Weir (activist), requires CU approval

Talk:Huizhou University .... User:Fred Bauder one declined request to protect the now unprotected mainspace article

Talk:Cheri DiNovo .... User:Bearcat active, request to Reduce to Pending Changes denied because technically impossible in 2016

Talk:Causes of autism .... User:Laser brain active, one request for the mainspace page in 2018, now unprotected

Talk:Australian flag debate .... User:JBW active, one request for mainspace, one for talk in 2013

Talk:Al-Shuhada Street .... User:Zero0000‎ active, no requests, seems related to Israel and Palestine

Talk:Blessing of same-sex unions in Christian churches .... User:Guerillero active, no requests, mainspace unprotected

Talk:California Valley Miwok Tribe .... User:Bgwhite inactive, 2 requests ending with temporary protect currently unprotected mainspace

Talk:Cabbit .... User:Nyttend, active(backup?), 2 requests for mainspace, second one added talk

Talk:Zeitgeist (film series) .... User:Georgewilliamherbert active, several requests to protect currently unprotected mainspace

Talk:Rick Alan Ross .... User:NeilN missing, one request to protect talk, mainspace already protected

Talk:September Morn .... User:Crisco 1492 retired, no requests, mainspace unprotected

After 2015: Talk:Franklin child prostitution ring allegations, Talk:Bart Hester, Talk:Nair, Talk:Hamat Gader, Talk:Two-state solution, Talk:Canada Park, Talk:Brianna Wu, Talk:Zoë Quinn, Talk:Puppy, Talk:Weekly Shōnen Jump, Talk:Gamergate (harassment campaign), Talk:Judwaa 2, Talk:James McGibney, Talk:Rebecca Watson, Talk:The Zeitgeist Movement, Talk:Peter Joseph, Talk:Underwear fetishism, Talk:Jeggings, Talk:Spandex fetishism, Talk:Rooting (Android), Talk:Macedonia naming dispute, Talk:Hamid Arabnia, Talk:Greek alphabet, Talk:International Court of Justice, Talk:World Bank, Talk:International Monetary Fund, Talk:McGriddles, Talk:Terry Hall (singer), Talk:Omar al-Bashir, Talk:Frankfurt School, Talk:Honorary Aryan, Talk:2018 United States Senate election in California, Talk:Barrett Watten, Talk:Mark Bourrie, Talk:Pedophilia, Talk:Fascism, Talk:List of Ultraman: Towards the Future characters, Talk:Gilo, Talk:Myx, Talk:Chia Pet, Talk:Operation Wikinger, Talk:Social distancing, Talk:Social distance

The order is chronological, the list is based on this, without redirects, disambiguations and subpages. Some editors marked as active haven't been seen for some months and other details may be worth double checking before bothering someone or taking any action. The above is intended to be used as a checklist, so you are invited to improve/correct it and if, after reading it you talk to some editor, submit a request to change protection or change some protection, you are invited to add a short desciption at the start of the line (this kind of works, but a better formatting is also welcomed).176.247.159.174 (talk) 02:54, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

The cases where the talk page is protected and the mainspace article isn't seem the most trivial ones and are way more common in this minimal and strange dataset than what I was expecting (I was wondering if some more technical solution to this problem is appropriate or was already later introduced). My understanding is that these cases still require the same procedure as other changes in protection. Sorry if I'm using the "protected/unprotected" expressions instead of more precise ones, but they are shorter and I have the perspective of an IP editor. In general the principe that talk pages shouldn't have a higher level of protetion than mainspace articles looks quite solid.

When checking for the activity of editors I likely saw retired banners on their user page, not so much in the talk page.

In general I understand why BLPs may require more protection even in the talk page and this seems to be already considered in the existing process for changing protection levels. 176.247.159.174 (talk) 06:48, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Later protections with unprotected mainspace

Talk:Bart Hester ... User:Courcelles

Talk:Hamat Gader ... User:Ian.thomson short wikibreak

Talk:Canada Park ... User:Ian.thomson, User:KrakatoaKatie active, may not be timely

Talk:James McGibney ... User:Mike V missing

Talk:Rebecca Watson ... User:Newyorkbrad active

Talk:Jeggings ... User:Acroterion active

Talk:Spandex fetishism ... User:Acroterion

contacted Talk:International Court of Justice ... User:AmandaNP active (article recently temporary protected)

contacted Talk:World Bank ... User:AmandaNP

contacted Talk:International Monetary Fund ... User:AmandaNP

Talk:Omar al-Bashir ... User:El C

Talk:Honorary Aryan ... User:El C

Talk:2018 United States Senate election in California ... User:El C

Talk:Barrett Watten ... User:SlimVirgin

Talk:Myx ... User:SlimVirgin

Some more recent ones were for sockpuppetry/block evasion and may make sense if the sock was active only on the talk page. 176.247.159.174 (talk) 22:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Please don't mass ping people like this. It's disruptive. If you have a wide issue, you can take it to WP:AN. But I don't even understand the reason I was pinged. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 22:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, my intention was just to add a link to have it at hand and I didn't realise this would lead to pings. As for the reason, this is about rechecking old talk page protections, you can find the ones related to you just by searching your username and can later mark them as addressed or delete them. Again, apologies to you and anyone who was pinged as a result, I intended to leave one discrete talk page message per editor later. One question, would any link lead to pinging or this depends on user specific settings? 176.247.159.174 (talk) 22:45, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

It appears that these notifications can be opted out, so I will wait some time to see if someone responds to them before posting any talk page messages, guess there's nothing I can do for the disruption already done. 176.247.159.174 (talk) 23:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I've gone and removed the indefinite semi-protection from that talk page. It definitely doesn't need it anymore. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Never mind, I give up.

As the title says. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.247.140.144 (talk) 21:22, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

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