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Kaveri River

You have added the word "...but has not met the monthly quota" for which you have provided the pdf as reference. Can you please tell me the page number in the pdf that states your claim. Thanks. Sarvagnya 17:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The PDF article from Bradford university will tell you that there is a monthly ration precribed in the interim order (page 20) and the article you have provided from rediff.com by Mr.Shenoy tells us that this wasnt met during specified months. There can be many rational explanation that can be given to the same, including calling those months as distress months for Karnataka (which I can not personally oppose- I'm not a policy maker). But leaving emotions outside wikipedia the plain fact that Karnataka didnt meet the interim orders SHOULD BE specified. If you still think that would be unfair on Karnataka you can please add on a further sentence Karnataka had explained its stance that those months are drought-periods, but Tamil Nadu had refused to accept it on the context of the interim order. I believe we can find references for this and makes the argument pretty much balanced.Wikiality123 21:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

That a monthly ration was prescribed is not news to anybody. I think even the article(the wikipedia article I mean) mentions that.

As for these monthly rations not being met, it is just what Tamil Nadu alleged/alleges and they complained about this to the tribunal also. But, the tribunal waved it away. For NPOV, where there is disagreement between K and TN's versions, we will have to go by the tribunal's version.

Nowhere has the tribunal said that Karnataka didnt meet the monthly rations. If it has, please show me. Even if it has, that would be true only of the couple of distress years in the last 16 years. You cannot pass off Tamil Nadu's allegations as if it was undisputed fact. You cannot also pass off exceptions as if it was the rule. Thanks. Sarvagnya 21:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

This is pretty much common sense when you look at the news and the turn of events that the problem sores in summer and TN running to Supreme court and the Prime Minister, political remarks, tension and in the end compliance after a while. As I mentioned earlier I am neither for TN nor K'taka on this issue. Krishna himself has accepted that he had defied the CRA ruling ([1]) (see para 11 and 19 in particular Wikiality123 22:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)). Once again please work on making wikipedia neutral not as a single state propaganda. The statement you have made about K'taka releasing the said yearly quota contradicts the fact being that the monthly ration wasnt meant, as per Krishna's word by itself. Wikiality123 22:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Again regarding taking TN govt's words for granted- I do not take any of the alegations as valid untill and unless its proven or accepted by a neutral third party. There are loads of alegations made my TN on K'taka, which I neither endorse nor disagree.

Further to the points listed above neither can the statment stating K'taka has complied with the orders would be accurate nor completely branding K'taka to have disragarded the orders. A more neutral way of stating it is what am asking you to do over there. Wikiality123 22:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

TN says : Ktaka did not follow the monthly rationing scheme.

Tribunal disagrees.

In the light of the tribunal's disagreement, TN's allegation remains just that. An allegation. TN's POV. It is not fact. Like you say there are countless allegations and counter allegations by both states. We cant present them as 'fact'. Which part of this logic do u not understand? Sarvagnya 22:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

* I think we are missing the point. K'taka by its Cheif Minister's words has indeed defied the CRA ruling. This can be presented as fact since all parties agree on this 'fact'.Wikiality123 23:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Reservation in India

Nice to know that you wish to contribute for improving Reservations in India article. I could not contribute much in recent months for this article. Lot of unsourced statements have been inserted in recent days. In my opinion. Pro/Anti reservation arguments and Tamilnadu sections needs revamp. Other sections in my opinion don't have POV statements. If you have any specific issues with other sections, please indicate to me. You can probaly take Pro/Anti reservation arguments section for editing which has lot of personal opinions which is not backed by statistics.I suggest you to put note in Talk pages about statements you feel is not backed by statistics or not shared by expert opinions and then remove the same after few days. Then probably we can come to Tamilnadu section. I am tied up with urgent project assignment and not able to concentrate on wiki for the last few days. Will assist you in bringing neutrality once I finish some urgent tasks. Almost all charts in the article have been prepared by me. If you need more clarifications on those charts please feel free to ask me. --Indianstar 15:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I also favour removing contents about Anti brahmanism which is not relevant to the subject. I agree with you that core theme of Tamilnadu subject can be retained in the main article and other contents can be moved to separate article.--Indianstar 05:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I have removed statements about Anti Brahmanism and multi level counter points. Asked for citations for few points. You can also ask citations for points which are not verifiable. Please mark statements which you consider as POV in Talk pages. We can discuss and either remove or modify those points. --Indianstar 06:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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Backward "Is the terminology appropriate?"

Hi, Thanks for your details. You Said:I read it in a journal article (if am right in sociologia or something like that). I will try to fish out the paper and will add it to the article.

I'll wait for the same. Please keep me updated.BalanceRestored 11:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I have put it on the talkpage, but I assume you would need access privilege (am not sure where you access the net, from work or home). If need be I can send the paper across, because by sharing I wouldn't be breaking the copy right law, am assuming. Or would I? ώЇЌĩ Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 11:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Christianity, one religion?

Hay have atempted to clarify my position using an example with books! sorry it has taken so long been away for a while :) Philsgirl 14:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate that. ώЇЌĩ Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 22:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

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Sultan Ahmed Ismail

All the details about Sultan Ahmed Ismail are authentic... I collected the details from the Dept. of Boitechnology and his students.... Now i have created one more page Family Planning Association India.. Pls. visit and give ur comments... Thanx for suporting me....

Regarding title

Even he is a professor, he has honoured Dr. by the University... I think the title Dr. might be right... one more imp. thing is he is not only completed Ph.D. He is completed D.Sc.

Yes Prof is even greater than Dr!!! So that should be his title rather than DR. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 03:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi San Roze

Thanks for ur accompany with me for my wikipedia contributions.. I didnot collect the details of Dr.Sultan Ismail from etither books nor e-media, I collected his details by directly in Department and his Students... Before going to start my contribution, i have to study wikipedia rules & regulations and also should follow the wiki ethics... U can do edit if u found any mistake in my contributions...

I try to collect some more information about Ingulab and his photo to develop the details of him... and onemore how can i contact u otherthan wiki 'cos im not regular user of internet.. --Meetnaseer 06:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Cheers mate. The picture there is the one I drew myself. If you can get one which doesnt have a licence problem, then please do. BTW I think the image you have used in Sultan Ahmed Ismail's page doesn't have a licence tag. The image runs a risk of being deleted. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 01:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

New article

I have contributed one more new aricle Mayuram Vedanayagam Pillai.. Pls. visit and give me ur comments..

Periyar

I am trying to search for one. It is a common knowledge in A.P., that Periyar was Balija Nayudu. I know this needs to be supported by a citation. Kumarrao 09:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

It is indeed interesting to know that, which ofcourse I cannot deny since it is also common knowledge that people hailing from Telugu origin families have long names and the official name is usually different to the one used amongst friends and family. So I am not chalenging the authenticity of the name, but just that we need a citation for it or may be we can think of a vote. I am not sure of the rules concerning common knowledge with wikipedia. There should be a way we can sort this out. Cheersώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 11:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

---You misunderstood me. It was not my view that the edit should be retained on the basis of popular opinion. I shall try to get a source and then only make an edit. Kumarrao 11:03, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• I think I see what you mean. I can get you reference of the same, a bit of help from my side. Cheers! ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 15:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Here we go with reference that Periyar was indeed a Balija Naidu. [2] and [3]. I leave it to you on how to add this to the article. Cheers! ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 16:04, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

-- Great! But, I could not read beyond the first page of both the references as I am not an User of an authorized library. Could you please copy the sentences and paste in this page. Thanks.Kumarrao 08:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I can do that in the evening if its fine, but the sentenses if my memory hasn't betrayed me just states ...E V Ramasami Naiker, a Balija Naidu..., kinda same sort in both the references. If you still want me to paste the paragraphs I can do that in the evening. Thanks. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 08:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning

Please assume good faith and refrain from calling other editors vandals as you did here. Calling another editor a vandal is considered a personal attack. Thanks. IPSOS (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with this completely because I reckon that you need to have a look at Danniella's talk page. I assumed good faith and asked her not to call editors spammers and it was Danniella who failed to do so, stating that its justified since the IPs were new. I am assuming that you would question Danniella too assuming that you are working on good faith too. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 14:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Moreover Danniella completely failed to go by Wikipedia norms even after I didn't report a WP:3RR on her and assumed good faith. I will wait and see if Danniella is questioned too on why she didn't revert her changes when that is the norms on wikipedia. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 14:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Jaya Group logo.jpg

Resolved, rationale added is fine , Feel free to remove the deletion tags :) Sfan00 IMG 14:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thiruvalluvar

You are right, the article needs to be cleaned up. You've been doing a good job lately; I'll join when I've some more free time. Cheers! utcursch | talk 13:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Inkulab

The first ref doesn't seem to mention him at all, and the second ref seems to mention him in passing. They are reliable sources, they're just not enough. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 16:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

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Results for AfD on Dravidian civilizations article

Hi,

Here is the outcome of the final decision for AfD on the Dravidian civilizations article:

“ The result was no consensus to delete; defaulting to keep. This is most certainly not a 'hoax'; there are plenty of sources to show that this is a valid concept. However, the views of the Community were split down the middle with strong opinions on both sides. What is clear is that there are significant parts of the article that are disputed and the way forward is for those concerned editors to initiate a thorough-going rewrite. TerriersFan 20:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC) ”

Once again, thank you for your input in the matter. Regards. Wiki Raja 21:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Beri Thimappa

Hi, Thank you for adding to the Beri Thimappa page. I hope to add/expand on it this weekend. --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 14:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheers! Just found that person interesting. All the best in expanding the entry. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε ^†αLҝ 14:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Works

Hello Wikiality123:

I sawy your Tamil Nadu related graphics or icons. They are impressive. We are interested in creating unique icons at Tamil Wikipedia as well. If you can contribute, please let us know. Thanks.

http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/பயனர்:Natkeeran

--Natkeeran 01:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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AFd

I am not so sure how to correct the problem. I will be waiting for someone with a doctorate or better yet a double doctorate in wikipedia editing to come fix it. :) Ciao for now. Sinhala freedom 16:53, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

User netmonger is back to adding unreliable references to the article and has removed the tag. Maybe you have an opinion on this. Sinhala freedom 14:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Thats sound like a good compromise, considering the event is hardly notable and details of the events as you point out is contradictory. You may want to express this point at the deletion page. Sinhala freedom 17:31, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Re;NPA

If you want, go right ahead to WP:AN/I. I frankly have better things to do that argue with you. --snowolfD4 ^{( talk / @ )} 13:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiality123, don't be dissuaded by incivil behavior from others. If you feel attacked, you should perhaps report it to ANI and I am sure the community will be supportive. Sinhala freedom 15:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Basilica of Our Lady of Good Health

My compliments on the substantial improvement of the above article. All the content included is very good. The one major reservation I would have would be the lack of "architecture"-related content. All buildings more or less require some content relative to construction materials, floor plan, design, and so on to be considered for GA class or higher. The article as it is now is certainly at least start class in my eyes, but without the addition of more architecture related content probably cannot be rated higher. This is in no way a criticism of the existing content, just an observation based on seeing other cases in the past. Thank you for the recent substantial improvements, and I am nominating the article for inclusion in the Main Page DYK section, in the hope that others will also be able to appreciate the fine work you have done on this page. John Carter 14:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)