User:Fvw/TalkArchive/16

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checkuser

A a supplement to expanded use of Checkuser (or alternative if it's vetoed by the powers-that-be), how about Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#.22Rip.22ping and ToSsing major .28Willy-style.29 vandals? -- Curps 05:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, but I've given up on all that. On that topic: since you already run a block bot, would you like to take over supporting the POPbot blocks? I've given up on popbot too, but it seems like a bit of a waste to just unblock them all again, so if you'd be willing to handle the questions and complaints or know someone who would be, that would be nice. --fvw* 22:22, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Geothermal Energy

I noticed you fixed the edit on Geothermal Energy. Thanks and keep up the good work! --Shark Fin 101 16:32, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the damage really fast last night I was tired. Yawn...You da man. Scott 22:48, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Reversions

Did you read the explanation?

If you did (and possibly the further discussion), then why did you do those reverts?

If you did not, then why didn't you read it?

Please understand that I do intend to remove the {{AOL}} templates, again. However, I have chosen to let the discussion (and now here) (hopefully) give a consensus before doing so as immediate action tends to cause people to judge and label rather than try to understand.

Thank you for your comments. I hope that it will increase understanding to better allow such actions without immediate counteraction.

134.250.72.174 00:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC), the former 134.250.72.176

ArbComm Complaint ReOpened

I've collected all the evidence against you and I have reopened the Arbcom complaint. Jeff V. Merkey 67.137.28.189 01:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Scottfisher Copyvios

(first item copied from User talk:Scottfisher)

Heya, I note you've been uploading a number of images to which you do not have the copyright as created-by-you-and-released-into-the-public-domain. Could you please explain why you did this, and tag all the images you uploaded that you do not have the copyright to for deletion immediately? Thank you. --fvw* 02:08, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I have previously asked Scott the same thing; but he simply deletes such comemnts from his talk page. Andy Mabbett 12:23, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

POPBot

Wait a minute... why are you unblocking every open proxy you found? ~~ N (t/c) 12:37, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not putting any more time in the whole vandalfighting thing, and I couldn't find anyone to take over the support of the blocks. If you're willing to support them (a few emails a week with people who don't understand they're running tor or where there's an open proxy running through their ISP proxy and you need to contact the ISP) that'd be great, and I can give you a list of the IPs. --fvw* 12:41, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid I wouldn't have the time for that, sorry. ~~ N (t/c) 12:44, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I have been looking for a way to help Wikipedia and am willing to put in the time for a few e-mails. I am new to Wikipedia but not new to Linux administration and proxy blockers on IRC networks. What do you need from me? I`ll help if I can. --Kebron 14:44, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think this is something you're going to need to need admin privs for, lot of unblocking and reblocking and all that. But perhaps you and nickptar would like to split the effort? --fvw* 04:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I would, but I'm not able to take on any extra obligations at all right now. ~~ N (t/c) 15:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I know you folks do not give admin rights to any Tom, Dick & Kebron but the offer is still there...--Kebron 17:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

A post on WP:AN to ask if an admin would be willing to liason with Kebron might be fruitful. Kebron can do the emailing/correspondence, and the admin can do whatever admin-related task is found to be necessary. encephalon 17:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Scottfisher

I have unblocked Scottfisher, and instructed him to begin work on listing which images he has uploaded are taken by him and which are not. I have also warned him not to upload any images or link to any off-site images or I will re-block him. It is my hope he will take this unblocking as motivation to start working on addressing the copyright issues which have been raised, but if not, I suggest that he be re-blocked. Best regards, Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 19:53, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Seems like a bad idea to me, at least as long as the old copyvios aren't handled first, but I'll leave the matter to you then. --fvw* 20:01, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I believe whatever I do it will work out for the best.

Please stop deleting ligitamate pictures before I had a chance to go through them like this, You are truely being unfair and I should trust you? [1] Now give me some time to square away this problem as you want, Go away for a few days or something, Thanks in advance.

Scott 00:41, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

The list has been completed to the best of my knowledge, now could you kindly remove the re-tag of unfair copys you put on the good pictures or return it to their original tags? I am sure they were put on properly, or is this still a problem which I've asked several times and recieved no answer? What is your strategy for this? Do you need anything from me? Nite-Nite and thanks Scott 04:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Logo/ KFOG, That's fine FVW Scott 17:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for tagging them, I have a few points about a few of them (see WP:PUI), but for the most part I'm fine with delisting them. --fvw* 17:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

A brief courtesy message, I looked at your points, and will have to get to them later, it may not happen tonight, hang in there family needs tending here. Scott 23:19, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

The list has been updated check at your convenience Don't let anyone confuse you, You and I are working on this and will get it done Scott 13:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Other people have an interest, too; you don't get to choose who is involved. Andy Mabbett 13:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Mabett you still don't get it, You are confusing the problem by stating anything, it's on the list for deletion, already. Go away, and try to stay out of trouble Scott 14:00, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I put the following on Scottfisher's talk page, but he deleted it, without comment:

I note that you're still claiming, from that list, to be the creator of Image:NECHO ALLEN HOTEL.jpg which appears to be a copyvio from [2].

Andy Mabbett 09:04, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Are we ready to delete the ones ready for deletion on the list?

Message here

Diffusion pump

Mind if I upload a diffusion pump pic? Scott 01:20, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Titoxd's RfA

Thank you!

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. I never thought I would get so much support! Thanks to your help, my nomination was the 10th most supported RfA in Wikipedia history. Now, please keep an eye out on me while I learn the new tools, ok? Thanks again! Titoxd^(?!?) 18:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Scottfisher

I think there's been some good headway dealing with the Scottfisher copyvio issues. Scott has come up with a list of images that he agrees should be deleted, and both he and Pigsonthewings are asking me to go ahead and delete them. However, I'm not entirely familiar with procedure on PUI and how that relates to the new speedies, so I wanted to ask some other admins familiar with the issue for comment. Best regards, Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 23:18, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, you can delete any of the images he's uploaded and he agrees with deleting right away (as long as you agree they should be deleted, but that's the case here of course). As for the rest of them, I think there's still some discussion so it's best to leave them on WP:PUI for the time being. --fvw* 16:16, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

• What would you like to discuss about any PUI's? Or dispute? Scott 01:45, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

• Hey fvw, I was helping over at the PUI page and there's a huge list of stuff I'm not sure what to do with. It seems you and others were working with the guy to sort things out, can you clue me in on what's going on, what I should do to help? Thanks! Foofy 20:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

• • Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been around much. I see the discussion has been removed from PUI so I assume the matter's closed, I suspect Evilphoenix may know more about the specifics. Thanks for your work on PUI by the way, it seems like a fairly major chore and it's good someone's working at it. --fvw* 01:33, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Question

Can anyone besides an administrator speedy delete a page.Dakota 05:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Not directly, but you can suggest a page be speedy deleted (make sure it can be deleted under one of the criteria for speedy deletion) by putting a {{db|reason why it should be speedily deleted}} template on it. --fvw* 16:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Many Thanks

I appreciate your answering my question. Wasn't sure is why I asked. I use CDVF and see so many vandals, vanities and nonsense that is getting to be offputting. I tag them when I see them but when you see one right after it get's tiresome. Anyway thanks again.-Dakota 22:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

POPBot #2

Fvw, you wrote above that your POPBlocker needs another admin to run/block. I might be interested in doing that, but my level of technical competence is very low. Could you possible give me more details about what the "job" entails — i.e. is it just mass-blocking a list of IPs, or editting through open proxies? Thanks. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W_S 15:14, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I can help too in some way, doing non-technical grunt work, if this helps in cutting down excessive vandalism. Would I just be running a script, or actually writing one? Cheers, Bratsche^{talk | Esperanza} 18:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[from email --fvw] I'm interested in taking it over, if you need someone. How can I help? --Linuxbeak

Thanks for your offers, what I can give you is

• A list of IPs that were open proxies during the last scan
• Shell scripts that block a list of IPs
• Shell one-liners to extract a plain list of IP:port's from some of the more popular open proxy lists
• Scripts to check whether an open proxy can edit wikipedia
• A script to extract a list of tor proxies that can edit wikipedia from the node directory (this one isn't my work, it's a slight edit of someone else's script)
• glue scripts

What you'd need is

• An admin account on wikipedia
• An account on a unix machine with perl, zsh, lynx and all the usual niceties
• A reasonable familiarity with shell scripting and how open proxies work (perl might be useful too)
• The ability to write shell oneliners to scrape the list of to-be-tested addresses from online proxy lists (the current ones won't stay active or current forever)
• The willingness to dig through it all; it works well, but it's just a bunch of clumped together shellscripts. You need to work out what you want to do in what order
• The time to handle complaints about blocks

I've put a tarball of the scripts and data (with the keys and edit tokens changed) at http://www.var.cx/wpproxycheck.tar.gz, I trust you'll be able to arrange things amongst yourselves. --fvw* 00:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, Fvw. Unfortunately, as stated above, I'm not that technically proficient and don't have a unix machine with all the good stuff loaded. :-( However, if you have a list of open proxies that need blocking or something like that, I'd be happy to help. Let me know. Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W_S 20:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Evidence of Tony Sidaway's Misconduct

I am currently amassing evidence of the misconduct demonstrated by User:Tony Sidaway and would appreciate your help in the matter. If you would please post any contributions you may have to User:TheChief/Evidence I would appreciate it very much. TheChief (PowWow) 23:40, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

POV warriors at National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD)

In a now archived exchange you offered to keep an eye on our anonymous POV pushers at National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD). They're at it again, three edits from three IP addresses in four days, by User:24.215.65.166 User:68.57.33.91 and User:69.226.249.72.

I'm heartily sick of being the only person standing there with his finger in the dyke. Do you know of any technology that can be deployed against this? --- Charles Stewart 15:51, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

CheckUser powers

Five new checkers, they'll be five of the arbitrators who can tell one end of an IP number from the other. Pretty much, anyway. I asked that you and Linuxbeak get it too, but for now you'll have to send the requests through us ;-)

This is not all I was hoping for, but it was the best quick compromise between a need for checkers now and the lack of a decent Foundation policy on how to give out this potentially explosive power - Anthere told us some hair-raising examples of real-life requests for terrible reasons that make the Board's reluctance very understandable. So the ArbCom members were regarded as a trustworthy compromise by both the board and Tim.

We expect that the eventual policy will be based on the one at m:Proposed CheckUser Policy. It's had most of the rough edges hammered off it. - David Gerard 17:21, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

User_talk:193.201.54.32

You may already be aware of this, but User_talk:193.201.54.32 appears to be a tor outproxy (at least that's how I ran across it – I regularly use tor for all wikipedia reading [and would use it for editing too if the login system overrode the proxy block list and was secure – one can hope!],) so blacklisting this particular IP is unlikely to have much effect. IPs aren't vandals, people are – but this is a well-known problem. –User:BenSittler

vandalism?

Excuse me, but where did I vandalize or edit incorrectly? I can't seem to recall...Your thoughts? ... added at 05:38, 17 November 2005 by 152.163.100.204

This remarkable edit was perpetrated by somebody using the same IP number. -- Hoary 06:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't consider that vandalism. 65.35.197.181 00:06, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Even if you don't, Wikipedia does. -- Hoary 03:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I was obviously joking! : ). 65.35.197.181 19:50, 19 November 2005 (UTC)