At Talk:Aurora,_Illinois_shooting#Requested_move_16_February_2019 the proposed move was:
I !voted in opposition, made a counter-proposal (2019 Aurora shooting), and explained why. The title minimalism was questioned. I explained further.
- Oppose 2019 Aurora, Illinois shooting. All these Aurora shootings should use the following KISS format: YEAR Aurora shooting. 1993 Aurora shooting and 2012 Aurora shooting are already set. So I support 2019 Aurora shooting for this one, per WP:PRECISE, WP:NATURAL, WP:CONSISTENT and WP:CONCISE. --В²C ☎ 01:39, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know why we are being so minimalistic.
2012 Aurora shooting should be retitled to "2012 Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting".
Aurora, Illinois shooting should be retitled to "2019 Aurora, Illinois workplace shooting".
1993 Aurora shooting should be retitled to "1993 Aurora, Colorado restaurant shooting".
Give the reader a break. We know that the potential for confusion is here. And quite frankly we want to make the reader aware that oddly enough, we have articles on three "Aurora" shootings in two different states in three different years. I think that is a curiosity that we should want to highlight. We have a policy of WP:CONCISE but we should not be concise in this instance. Bus stop (talk) 02:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Bus stop: I absolutely agree with this. These pages and the conventions for naming them are not for serial killer buffs only, they're primarily for the general reader, who will be coming here with a couple of fuzzy details in mind and will be better served by sufficiently descriptive page names. – Athaenara ✉ 02:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- Though I should specify that I don't agree that movie theater, workplace, and restaurant page name elements are necessary. – Athaenara ✉ 02:45, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- The titles hardly matter to readers. They’ll either Google, where the search will show them enough of the leads to provide far more information than even these verbose titles do, or they’ll land on the dab page which also gives them all the necessary distinguishing information. If the titles mattered to readers more we’d be far more concerned with having descriptive titles. That’s why WP titles tend to be minimalistic, which has advantages for editors, not the least of which is making titles predictable, objective and less contentious. —В²C ☎ 07:06, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- We are concerned with readers, not with editors. You are saying that the minimalistic approach
"has advantages for editors". In this particular instance we should shift our concern from editors to readers. Bus stop (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, we are concerned with issues that matter to readers. Which of these titles we select for this article is not an issue that matters to readers per the reasoning I provided in my previous comment. So all that’s left that’s of concern about this title decision is what matters to editors. —В²C ☎ 03:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose 2019 Aurora, Illinois shooting. I agree with the reasoning of Born2cycle above. I support 2019 Aurora shooting for this article. Bus stop (talk) 04:39, 24 February 2019 (UTC)