Template:Did you know nominations/Xu You (Southern Tang)

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The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 07:24, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Xu You (Southern Tang) edit

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~~... that Southern Tang official Xu You dreamt he would become the "Lord of the Northern Dipper"?~~

Reviewed: newbie

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 12:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC).

New enough, long enough, well referenced, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen in online English-language sources. The hook is hooky, but it doesn't align with the way it's stated in the article or in the source. Was this a fictitious or fictional account? Then why does the hook state it as fact? The article also needs to be linked in at least one other Wikipedia article to avoid an orphan tag. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it is fictional but any hook that points that out wouldn't be as interesting. At the same time it is not necessarily unfactual. I believe Xu You is mentioned at the Li Yu page. Thanks. Kingoflettuce (talk) 03:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

But the hook is blurring fact and fiction, which is not the way DYK hooks are made. A hook could be sly or funny based on the facts, but can't state something unreal about a real person. What is the point of this dream book? Why is it saying fictitious things about real people? Yoninah (talk) 00:25, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

In the same vein as Liaozhai -- fictitious accounts using real characters. They are meant to boost the accounts' credibility. I'm all for a new hook though. Kingoflettuce (talk) 03:01, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

How about:
ALT1: ... that Xu You foiled Li Congshan's attempt to seize the crown from his older brother by tattling on him to the crown prince himself? Yoninah (talk) 23:13, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Cool. Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 02:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Since I'm not allowed to review my own hook, calling on another reviewer to approve ALT1. Yoninah (talk) 11:10, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and well referenced. ALT1 is verified with RS (Kurz 2011). QPQ not required. No copyvio found. Good to go. -Zanhe (talk) 01:45, 12 February 2016 (UTC)