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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:51, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

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Windmill Hill Cavern edit

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  • ... that the Windmill Hill Cavern which proved that humans and extinct British animal species coexisted together was found accidentally by John Lane Philp as he was looking for his pickaxe that he lost while doing home construction? Source: "Caves of Great Britain: Philp's Cave". www.showcaves.com. Retrieved 2018-11-27.</ref>

Created/expanded by JLParton (talk). Nominated by JC7V7DC5768 (talk) at 06:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

Image eligibility:

QPQ: No - "NA"
Overall: @JLParton:. Well done! It's an interesting, well-written, neatly structured article and the hook is good and fully supported by the sources. My only concern is that the text follows the source articles quite closely and, having looked at the guidelines and examples at WP:PLAGIARISM, may fall just the wrong side of the line. I'd really welcome a 2nd opinion as I'm no expert . Otherwise I fear the article may need a bit of reworking to reflect the guidelines more closely. We don't want to risk a WP:COPYVIO. Bermicourt (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

  • @Bermicourt: Hi, I've reworked that part of the article as to summarize what was in the source as opposed to following it closely like it did before I changed it. Thanks for pointing it out to me. JC7V (talk) 22:05, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I want to just tighten up the hook to reflect the 2 sources (Caves of GB at www.showcaves.com and Windmill Hill Cave at Historic England) that back it up and then replicate it in the article. So the proposed alternative is:
ALT1: that ... Windmill Hill Cave, which provided the first scientifically accepted proof that humans and extinct British animal species coexisted, was found accidentally by John Lane Philp as he was looking for a pickaxe that he lost while doing home construction?
If you're happy with that, I'll review the rest of the article again just from a COPYVIO point of view and see if I still need some help. Bermicourt (talk) 20:13, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
  • @Bermicourt: Hi, I've added the Alt 1 that you suggested (with the added source) and I also fixed all of the issues in the article that you mentioned. JC7V (talk) 21:21, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
    • @Bermicourt: I added more references for the hook. The main article was cleaned up for copyright violations so it's shorter than it was before but all copyright is removed so there aren't anymore concerns. JC7V (talk) 02:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
The copyvio elements have been removed and, having sought the opinion of the editor who dealt with that, I'm content this is now good to go. Well done. Bermicourt (talk) 17:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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