Template:Did you know nominations/Tafelberg School

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Tafelberg School edit

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* ... that Tafelberg School in Cape Town was originally established for white students?

* ALT1:... that Tafelberg School was first established in a building from 1899 and moved to a new location in 2010?

* ALT2:... that a psychiatrist at Tafelberg School estimated a third of its learners were on Ritalin?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Telegraph (sternwheeler 1914), Template:Did you know nominations/Trafalgar High School (Cape Town)

Moved to mainspace by Nathan121212 (talk), Victuallers (talk) Afri Twin article created by HelenOnline (talk). Nominated by Nathan121212 (talk) at 17:01, 23 August 2014 (UTC).

Comment: Joint nomination by Nathan121212 and HelenOnline

I'd like to hear from some Brits on this as well, but to US ears "learners" sounds very weird. I'm also uncomfortable about the "Ritalin" hook, which is from an offhand statement 15 years ago. EEng (talk) 01:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Comment: I think it is a South African thing. The authorities refer to students as learners and teachers as educators. Students is fine. I don't like any of these hooks however. I think we are overdoing the race issue with 3 recent DYK hooks about South African schools based on race (see Template:Did you know nominations/Trafalgar High School (Cape Town), Template:Did you know nominations/Alexander Sinton Secondary School, Template:Did you know nominations/Harold Cressy). I read the article and the most interesting thing I read was about the twin school arrangement. I will work on that and suggest a hook. (Note: I am not offering to review the DYK due to time constraints.) Helen Online 07:04, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that Tafelberg School in Cape Town is twinned with a school in Plymouth, England via the Afri Twin initiative? Helen Online 10:11, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

I like it. Nathan121212 (talk) 11:24, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

:) EEng (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Striking through other ALTS, this nomination is ready to be reviewed. Nathan121212 (talk) 13:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Note I have added Afri Twin by User:HelenOnline to this nomination. I hope I have adjusted this template accordingly. The following was suggested by HelenOnline:

ALT4: ~~... that Tafelberg School is one of over 250 schools in the United Kingdom and South Africa linked with overseas schools for mutual benefit via Afri Twin?~~ Nathan121212 (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Note: I've fixed the new DYKmake credit, added a DYKnom, and the Afri Twin article history link is also now available. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:39, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Note: I have (hopefully) made some improvements to Tafelberg School nominated by Nathan121212. @Nathan121212: I could not find sources for some content relating to the school's early history. Please add sources where indicated in the article otherwise I think the unsourced content should be removed which is not too serious as it is not a lot of text and we can work around it. Helen Online 14:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

@HelenOnline: I'm also struggling to find sources for that info. I came up with the year by seeing the age of the school in one of the articles and deducting that from the date the source article was written. That needs to be confirmed though. That text may need to be removed for the purpose of this DYK nomination. Nathan121212 (talk) 15:11, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

OK thanks, I found that source (note the article date was two years out in the citation) and have incorporated it into the article. Helen Online 17:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Note I would like to propose ALT5 elaborating on the school as otherwise I think the hook is unlikely to attract interest in that particular article, and perhaps it will also attract a reviewer with an interest in the subject:

ALT5: ... that Tafelberg School for children with special learning needs is one of over 250 schools in Europe and South Africa linked for mutual benefit via Afri Twin? Helen Online 10:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI, I reformatted the references, but did not change the substance of the content. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

These two articles are new enough and long enough. Going for ALT5 which has inline citations for its facts in one or both articles. I found no neutrality or close paraphrasing issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I added the ALT5 hook fact and citation to Tafelberg School, per DYK rules. I also corrected the information in the hook based on the source. Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 1 November 2014 (UTC)