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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bloom6132 (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

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St. Anne's Market edit

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Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 02:53, 25 April 2017 (UTC).

  • Article is new enough (created today). Article length at 1900+ is long enough. Article neutrality and sourcing good, with sufficient refs. No copyvio detected by Earwig. QPQ done. Hooks well within length and sourced. I don't either hook quite works as is. First, "parliament" is the government body. This is really about a building. So I think both hooks should say "... that the former parliament building". The building isn't really buried under a parking lot, the building burned down - so I don't think the hook is accurate. Alt1 works with the addition of building:
or a new hook could still use parking lot, which is more "hooky":
I think the revised ALT2 looks best. Hooky and accurate. SounderBruce 05:09, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Good to go with ALT2 (preferred) or ALT1a. MB 14:47, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but don't find ALT2 so hooky. It's the former building, it's from the pre-Confederation era, so why wouldn't it be destroyed? What do you think of this alt?
  • ALT3: ... that a fish market became the provincial seat of Canada?
  • Also, there is a citation needed tag that needs to be addressed. Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
  • The new hook would not be accurate, as the fish market came after the burning of the original building (which housed the government). Perhaps the following hook:
  • ALT4: ...that Canada's former parliament building later became a fish market, and then a parking lot?

SounderBruce 22:52, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Thanks for taking care of the cite. But the hook is not hooky. Why do you have to spell everything out?
  • ALT3a: ... that a fruit and vegetable market became the provincial seat of Canada? Yoninah (talk) 08:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I'll defer to your hook, then. SounderBruce 17:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks. New reviewer needed for ALT3a. Pinging original reviewer, @MB:. Yoninah (talk) 18:24, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
The closest citation to the hook fact ([1]) confirms that St. Anne's Market became the seat of the first Parliament. But it doesn't say it was a "fruit and vegetable" market, it just says "public market". Do you have a better source? MB 18:55, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
None of the references seem to have a direct and specific mention of fruits and vegetables. A mistake on my part. How about this for a new hook:
SounderBruce 05:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I think that works. Good to go with ALT5. @Yoninah: MB 15:03, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
  • @MB: What does burning to the ground have to do with it? Can't you make it short and hooky:
  • ALT5a: ...that a public market was the provincial seat of Canada? Yoninah (talk) 15:07, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Yoninah, I did not receive a ping on this and just noticed it. Did you mean to ask SounderBruce since it's his article and his hook? But I'll give my thoughts anyway. I don't see a problem with the hook. The building burning to the ground has a lot to do with the article. How many government headquarter buildings are destroyed by rioters? I find it intriguing and hooky. More so than the building previously being a market - that strikes me as boring. So I'll throw out ALT5b for consideration (which is similar to ALT1a).
  • @MB: yes, that's good; it adds a little more kick to the burning to the ground part. I'm willing to approve it if SounderBruce approves. BTW the same source (footnote 1) verifies ALT3a, above. Yoninah (talk) 08:27, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: ALT5b is all good with me. SounderBruce 19:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Great, let's wrap this up. ALT5b verified and cited inline. Rest of review per MB. ALT5b good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK#We don't need no water. Yoninah (talk) 14:59, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
  • I approve of ALT5c as nominator; ALT3a is still a bit dull for a hook. Just need this to finally get through to the front page. SounderBruce 18:48, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
  • ALT5C looks good to me and if someone would like to formally give it, or some other hook, a tick I will be able to promote this again! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed to approve ALT5c. Alternately, Cwmhiraeth, you could approve it and another editor could promote it to prep. Yoninah (talk) 16:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Would it be possible to hold this for July 1 (Canada Day)? SounderBruce 06:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

  • At this point, I would IAR and agree. Moving to special occasions holding area. Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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