Template:Did you know nominations/Sanwa Electronic

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The result was: promoted by Keilana (talk) 15:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Sanwa Electronic edit

  • ... that the founder of Airtronics used his medical leave from a previous job, following a heart attack, to build model airplanes and went on to have a library named after him?
  • ALT1:... that the partnership between model aircraft company Airtronics and transmitter manufacturer Sanwa helped increase the former's annual profit from less than $1 million in 1983 to $8 million in 1989?

Created/expanded by Donnie Park (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC).

  • The article currently has two cleanup tags that would need to be handled before this can be accepted to DYK. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:16, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Apologies for a long wait as I have been busy with other things at the moment. Additionally because I am not good with my Japanese, it is very hard to try to make sense on what I am trying to write. In that case, how do I get assistance with editing. Also I removed one tag that I added in myself. Donnie Park (talk) 13:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I made as much cleanup I thought is necessary, though as said, my Japanese isn't good so I will need to enlist a user with native language skills to make sense of the Google translations. Would it be okay to remove the cleanup tag? Donnie Park (talk) 13:35, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I made some minor copyedits to the article but they are not, I think, significant enough to conflict with reviewing this nomination. Anyway, the article is new enough (moved to mainspace August 1 after earlier editing as a userspace draft), long enough (2961 B, not counting the infobox and big table), well written and adequately sourced. It appears to be free of copied text and close paraphrasing. Two minor issues that still need addressing: (1) the "medical leave" part of the hook is in the LA Times source but not mentioned anywhere in our article; (2) the sentence in the article that includes the part of the hook about Renaud using his recovery time to build model planes needs to have a footnote, even though the same source is already used on the very next sentence. (This requirement for redundant footnotes is an oddity in the DYK rules, but it is a rule.) After these are fixed it should be good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:17, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
  • It says in the article "used his medical leave from his office-equipment company job to build radio-controlled airplanes", I revised this bit of the hook which I hope is acceptable. Donnie Park (talk) 18:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but noticed that the chart lacks citations. Can you cite some or all of the line items in this chart? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Oops, I agree, sorry for missing this in my review. The whole chart also seems to be very tangential to the subject, so if it is to be kept (rather than just deleting it or moving it to a more appropriate article) I think we need some sourced text explaining what the connection is. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I have managed to get some, though some are now difficult to source and some were because of logos appearing on cars and have as advised, revised that section. Donnie Park (talk) 20:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Donnie Park:, you also have more than 5 DYKs, so please submit a QPQ for this nomination. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:25, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah:, Apologies for this I never knew about this concept as my other previous last DYK was in 2011, so I didn't know this applied then. Donnie Park (talk) 22:26, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
  • To perform a review, you need to edit the nomination template and add your review to it, taking into account the criteria that you should see listed at the top of your screen while editing the template. I don't see that there yet. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
  • That was because I was still reviewing but then I've changed my review to another subject (above). Donnie Park (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Your review is also short but to the point. Please do keep the template watchlisted so that if the nominator fixes the problem you can give it another round of reviewing. (The orphan tag would also need to be fixed before that one could be accepted.) —David Eppstein (talk) 22:56, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi again. I came by to promote this, and found that a bit of copyediting was needed, which I did. However, there are numerous bare URLs in the References section which need to be fleshed out, per Rule D3. Please refer to WP:Citation templates. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah:, I resolved the PDF references which was tricky to do unless manually, the only problem I have left is the lrp.cc ones as I tried using citation templates without much sucess, is there a way to resolve this. Donnie Park (talk) 22:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Donnie Park: I replaced all the bot-generated references with proper reference formatting; please look at this in the edit window to see how to do it for next time. (By the way, you don't have to print the whole string from the citation template, just the parameters that you want to use. This saves space on the server.) Footnote 2 is a dead link; perhaps you can find a different URL for that? The LRP.cc citations are all coming up blank when I click on them. You cited them very nicely, but they don't appear on the website at all. Yoninah (talk) 22:11, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: The LRP citations should look like these, the problem with citing them is that it lops the end bit off as you can see.
I wish I could find an alternative source but it will be restricted to print hobby magazines that I have never brought, is there an other way to use the cite them as I tried tinyURL which Wikipedia refuses to accept? Donnie Park (talk) 13:00, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Since the URL is not connecting to a visible page, I suggest you just delete the URL from the citation. Then it will be considered an offline source, which is fine. Yoninah (talk) 13:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Done. Donnie Park (talk) 00:05, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Everything looks good now. Article is new enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. The charts are cited and the confusing LRP cites have been made offline. QPQ done. Both hooks are verified and cited inline, though I prefer ALT1 rather than the piped link to a company name (a page that doesn't exist) in the original hook. I tweaked the grammar in ALT1 and corrected the first sales figure as "less than $1 million" per the source. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:25, 29 August 2015 (UTC)