Template:Did you know nominations/Rotraud Hansmann

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:55, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Rotraud Hansmann edit

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Harnoncourt in 1980

~~... that the soprano Rotraud Hansmann performed six parts in three Monteverdi operas that Nikolaus Harnoncourt (pictured) conducted in pioneering recordings, including Euridice in L'Orfeo?~~

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 16 March 2016 (UTC).

Created on March 9, nominated on March 16/new enough. 1552 char, long enough. Neutral. Cited. No apparent copyvios. Image appears to be free to use with attribution. QPQ done. The hook is complicated, but the source Music web confirms the roles La Musica, Euridice, Amore, Minerva, Virtù, and Drusilla, for 6 roles, in L’Orfeo, Il ritorno d’Ulisse in patria, and L’incoronazione di Poppea for 3 operas. My only issue, as a non-music person was that I questioned why they were pioneering. The source, makes it clearer when it says there are "no extant full score(s) of the music to any of the three operas", so though they had been recorded before, only abridged versions of Ulisse and Poppea not the entirety of either had been previously recorded. That made me wonder if the hook should not somehow refer to Ulisse or Poppea rather than L’Orfeo and if the pioneering part could be better explained in the article? I think it will have wider appeal to the non-musically inclined if it is more straightforward about how remarkable the recording actually was. I cannot even imagine trying to record an entire opera without a full score. (Not exactly jazz improv, but certainly flying on intuition). Thank you for teaching me Gerda Arendt, bit by bit. SusunW (talk) 00:03, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I think let's rather drop the "pioneering". That alternative is broader because it includes stage performances also. Those who know a bit and read Harnoncourt's obituaries will know, and forthe others it can be just impressive/quirky that she sang six parts in three operas. It's about her, not him, therefore I mention Euridice, a title role, while admittedly the others are secondary or even minor parts. She was the soprano in his (pioneering) Mass in B minor recording which changed my life (when I heard the first chords on radio by chance I stopped doing what I was doing and listened to the end), but I tried not to have Bach again ;)

ALT1: ... that the soprano Rotraud Hansmann performed six parts in three Monteverdi operas conducted by Nikolaus Harnoncourt (pictured), including Euridice in L'Orfeo? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Works for me, as I said, you know more about it than me :). Alt1 at 161 char is under max and verified. It also puts the focus back on the singer, which I like. GTGSusunW (talk) 13:48, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Pioneering meant her as well, though. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 23 March 2016 (UTC)