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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by  MPJ-DK  21:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

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Created by BabbaQ (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 10 September 2016 (UTC).

  • Review below
  • Article (New):
  • Article (Long enough):
  • Article (Within policy): Would have liked a few more contemporary sources during her career, rather than a few post-death articles. But subject appears to be notable.
  • Hook (Format):
  • Hook (Content): I love ABBA, so this is a nice little nugget of history! :D Either is fine.
  • QPQ:
  • Images: One image, from Wikipedia Commons. Goodness... that fashion!

Overall, ! --Coin945 (talk) 17:28, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Returned from prep due to insufficient sourcing and Rule D7. I'm posting the evaluation offered at WT:DYK: Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
  • ... that singer Rock-Olga (pictured) recorded an album, Rock Olga Today, with three members of ABBA: Benny Andersson on piano, and Agnetha Fältskog and Anni-Frid Lyngstad on backing vocals?
  • Now then, the hook may be alright (although a little too much to go into Benny, Agnetha and Anni-Frid's various contributions in a hook), but I've read the article. Some things stood out:
  • "She was one of Sweden's first rock musicians during the 1950s." is a claim in the lead. This seems to be neither expanded upon or referenced in the main part of the article. It also goes on, in the article, to state "At the beginning of her career, in 1958..."
    • Now supported by two sources - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • "She was a member of two bands Trio med Olga and Hafvsbandet." in the lead, but the article and infobox clearly states she also performed/was associated with "another rock band called Rockfolket".
    • Changed to "founding member" in the lead - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • "Her first hit song was a cover of "What You've Done to Me".[1] " - the song linked appears to have been first performed in 2012 by an Australian X Factor singer. There is no reference in that article to Rock-Olga or a version she may have performed".
    • Clear now, it was a Paul Anka song - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • "Rock-Olga performed the song "What Have You..." and won the competition..." is this, by any chance, the same song as previously linked to the Australian X Factor singer, just abbreviated and rejigged?
    • Fixed - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • The infobox (and categories) claim she was born in Gävle, yet this is entirely unreferenced.
  • As is her birthdate.
    • Both now have inline citations (for birthdate, must do math) - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • The infobox and categories also describe her as a soul artist, yet nothing appears to be substantiate this claim in the article.
    • Removed - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • And finally, the ref used to source her death doesn't work.
    • Fixed - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

I know we're all worried about getting the hook right, but when reviewing these articles, (and this one is barely above stub in size), it would be helpful to make sure that so many issues are at least picked up upon before the articles are in with a racing chance of heading to the main page in such conditions. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:12, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

  • A new reviewer is needed after improvements. BabbaQ (talk) 18:28, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
    • New enough when nominated; long enough; neutral, sourced, not plagiarized (as per Earwig, and common sense since the sources are in Swedish and the text is in English); hook checks out (I proposed ALT2, as it sounds better to me); QPQ done; image is in the public domain (and adorable); not high-resolution but looks fine as a thumbnail. All of Rambling Man's concerns appear to have been addressed (my comments inline, above). - MopTop (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
      • I suggest that the article is placed back in the DYK section it was before being pulled.BabbaQ (talk) 21:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
        • That's up to someone else, but BabbaQ, can I suggest that every article you nominate is copyedited by a native English speaker before you nominate it? It's not your fault that the system has let you down, but as I've noted in your other nomination Helene Ripa, it needs serious work before it should be considered appropriate for the main page. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:34, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
        • Of course, I would also recommend that Coin945 review the whole article rather than just the hook in future. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:35, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
            • I note that the article has been reviewed and approved yet again. And all your concerns with this article has been raised and taken care of. Bring the problems with the Ripa article up at that articles DYK. Not here. BabbaQ (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
  • BabbaQ - if you want to ping me to give articles you have or about to nominate for DYK I'd be happy to take a look at them, a second set of independent eyes can never hurt. And putting it back in the prep.  MPJ-DK  21:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
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