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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:23, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
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Psalm 93 edit
St. Rumbold's Cathedral in Mechelen, Belgium
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that Psalm 93, Dominus regnavit, was set for choir and organ by Jules Van Nuffel for use at the Mechelen Cathedral (pictured), but it was Psalm 92 for him?Source: several
- Reviewed: David Johnson (photographer)
- Comment: The text says something about reigning in beauty, which I think the image carries without words.
5x expanded by Yoninah (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:55, 15 February 2019 (UTC).
Doing... starting review for nomination. Flibirigit (talk) 04:56, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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Readable prose expanded fivefold, and nominated within timelines. Length and sourcing are adequate. Article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism issues detected. Photo is freely licensed on the commons, and clear at low resolution. QPQ has been completed. I'm trying to figure out which source verifies the hook. This source cited inline does not mention the church. Flibirigit (talk) 05:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking! - I'll go and try to find a source for the fact that he wrote all these works for the place where he had the key position if necessary. Compare In convertendo. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Flibirigit, I added a ref giving his long time at that cathedral, and saying something about the psalms with the cathedral choir in mind, next to the left image with "king and queen". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- The added citation here confirms that he was choir director at the church between WWI and WWII, but not that the composition was specifically for the church, as the hook implies. Sorry to be very picky on this. Is it possible to cite "for use at the church", or remove and reword that? Flibirigit (talk) 23:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- It also says that he wrote the psalms of which this is one for the church (where he had founded the choir. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- It also says "with the possibilities of a great cathedral choir in mind", not necessarily this cathedral though. Flibirigit (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- He had no other choir in mind than the one he had founded and conducted for decades, the "a" may come from the translation. Literature about him is in Dutch which I can't read, but he is known for working for that place. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- We have to avoid inferring a connection that is not written. I don't want to see this get brought up at ERRORS. I think the best solution is to reword the hook to something like "composed Psalm 93 for a large choir, while he was music director at the church". That would be supported by the sources, and you could use the photo. Flibirigit (talk) 17:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have my daily fit with ERRORS and am unafraid. I saw no elegant way to say that with the psalm in front, which I always try to do. But, trying to please:
- ALT1: ... that Jules Van Nuffel, founder and conductor of the choir at the Mechelen Cathedral (pictured), set Psalm 93, Dominus regnavit, for choir and organ, but it was Psalm 92 for him? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1 is a good improvement. I think all we need now is this citation to appear in the same sentence as this. That way both the song arrangement, and his directorship are cited. Flibirigit (talk) 18:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have trouble understanding. They are in the same sentence, one for the first half, founding etc, and the other for the second half, parts, title etc. I can't place the former at the end, because it doesn't speak about the setting. + I promise we'll get all clicks to the composer that we want for the psalm ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:24, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1 is a good improvement. I think all we need now is this citation to appear in the same sentence as this. That way both the song arrangement, and his directorship are cited. Flibirigit (talk) 18:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Jules Van Nuffel, founder and conductor of the choir at the Mechelen Cathedral (pictured), set Psalm 93, Dominus regnavit, for choir and organ, but it was Psalm 92 for him? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:54, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have my daily fit with ERRORS and am unafraid. I saw no elegant way to say that with the psalm in front, which I always try to do. But, trying to please:
- We have to avoid inferring a connection that is not written. I don't want to see this get brought up at ERRORS. I think the best solution is to reword the hook to something like "composed Psalm 93 for a large choir, while he was music director at the church". That would be supported by the sources, and you could use the photo. Flibirigit (talk) 17:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- He had no other choir in mind than the one he had founded and conducted for decades, the "a" may come from the translation. Literature about him is in Dutch which I can't read, but he is known for working for that place. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- It also says "with the possibilities of a great cathedral choir in mind", not necessarily this cathedral though. Flibirigit (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- It also says that he wrote the psalms of which this is one for the church (where he had founded the choir. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- The added citation here confirms that he was choir director at the church between WWI and WWII, but not that the composition was specifically for the church, as the hook implies. Sorry to be very picky on this. Is it possible to cite "for use at the church", or remove and reword that? Flibirigit (talk) 23:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Flibirigit, I added a ref giving his long time at that cathedral, and saying something about the psalms with the cathedral choir in mind, next to the left image with "king and queen". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, my oversight. The other citation is at the end of the previous sentence. ALT1 is now good to go. Flibirigit (talk) 18:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)