Template:Did you know nominations/Nevertheless, she persisted.

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 13:33, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Nevertheless, she persisted edit

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"Nevertheless, she persisted" tattoo

... that after Mitch McConnell said, "Nevertheless, she persisted" to refer to Elizabeth Warren's silencing during a U.S. Senate debate, over 100 women in Minneapolis got tattoos (example pictured) of that meme? Source: "Purmort said that, in a few days, nearly 2,000 people had shown interest, and at the event more than 100 women (and a few guys) showed up to get the tattoo in Minneapolis." USA Today

Reviewed: Rogue Fitness

Created by Grand'mere Eugene (talk). Self-nominated at 18:30, 27 March 2017 (UTC).

image: Day Without a Woman SF 20170308-2212.jpg
caption: Woman wearing "Nevertheless, she persisted" tee shirt
comment: Tried to nominate image, too, after initial nom submitted

I won't review the article, but I will note its glaring bias and its imperviousness to any form of critical commentary in sources that are not glaringly left-leaning, with the latter being cited in depth with all the (more or less relevant) things they have to say about this hype. It took me 5 minutes to come across this, this, and this. (Interestingly, the article is not even interested in more positive coverage of the issue by conservative sources.) Dahn (talk) 23:24, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for these observations. I haven't time this evening, but will draw from the resources you have included to improve the article's neutral point of view. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:38, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Today, I've added 5 paragraphs to provide a better balanced perspective. Dahn, I especially want to thank you for the reference to the David Harsanyi article, as I do admire his remarkable and humorous ability to turn a phrase. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:32, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it looks balanced now. Thanks. Dahn (talk) 06:26, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:47, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Article is new enough and long enough. It is generally cited appropriately, although I have tagged one unsourced statement that needs to be fixed before this can proceed. It is generally neutrally written, though I'm slightly concerned about the inclusion of a fairly harsh statement from the national review that is not directly related here, but is generic criticism of Warren (the rest of that paragraph is okay). The copyvio tool only flags quotations. The hook is cited inline, and is supported by the source. So this should be fine after the small issues are addressed. Oh, and I'm wondering at the period in the title: I don't think that's appropriate...Vanamonde (talk) 07:31, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpful review. I've added a citation with a quote from the Congressional Record, as I learned the sequence of events from the video listed under External Links. I have also deleted the harsh part of the Harsanyi quote about Warren.

Since the I have a dream article is titled without a period, I agree the period is probably not appropriate, but I haven't found a rule under WP:MOS regarding periods in a title that is a sentence. There is a redirect from the title of the article without the period, which originally pointed to List of political catchphrases; I revised that redirect after moving the article from draft space. When I tried moving it tonight, I got an error message that I don't have permission to move it, and the article will need to be moved by an administrator. I have submitted a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Cheers! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 08:59, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Excellent, this is GTG. I'm going to ping Bluemoonset, though, just to check if there's anything we need to do to accommodate the change in the title, from the version with the period to the version without. I've changed the link in the hook. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 10:09, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Vanamonde, I've made the necessary adjustments to this template, so it should be all set. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:37, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Will the picture be considered for inclusion? I had trouble getting it to display properly when I tried to nominate it after submitting the template. Thanks! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 16:02, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, BlueMoonset. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask for your assistance once again, to deal with Grand'mere Eugene's image question. The file in question is (image commented out since it was so big, and not the right one). How do we add it to the template without breaking anything? Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 17:25, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Vanamonde, for some reason the wrong photo was displaying (and it was huge besides); I have added the photo mentioned above (which is in the article), and commented out the other one. The correct photo doesn't really match the hook, which talks about a tattoo, since it's an image of a T-shirt instead, but we'll see whether the person promoting it to prep thinks it works anyway. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:45, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks, BlueMoonset. Restoring the tick so the bot moves this. Grand'mere Eugene, the image has been included here, but the final decision on whether to use it is the promoter's. Vanamonde (talk) 04:50, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Vanamonde, per a request by Grand'mere Eugene on my talk page, I have replaced the image with one of an actual tattoo (the image has also been added to the article). I've also added "example pictured" to the hook; the photo was taken in New York City, so it's doubtful that it was one of the Minneapolis 100 being referred to. Can you please check the license and confirm that the tick is still good with this image? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:36, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

License is okay, the image shows up well at the size (actually better than the previous image) so restoring tick. Vanamonde (talk) 04:07, 13 April 2017 (UTC)