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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 17:07, 24 May 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Created 23 May, nominated 24 May. 2187 characters readable prose, start class (which I concur with, in accordance with WP:BLP). All paragraphs cited. Appears exceptionally neutral, even for a political figure's page. Per Earwig's Copyvio Detector, highest overlap 16.7% with no plagiarism on manual inspection. Hook (ALT0) is supported by the CNN source, "And while Jordan's death may have been the catalyst to her activism..." Hook is interesting and <200 characters. No pictures used. QPQ completed, AGF for the count. Altogether, DYK nom is good to go! ―Biochemistry🙴❤ 04:59, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT0, but I don't see the hook fact stated in the article. (Note that the CNN source says it "may" have inspired her activism.) Yoninah (talk) 22:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Hmm. It may not be in explicit terms, come to think of it. I'm out of free AJC views for the month already, so I can't re-read those links at the moment. Here are two alts... – Muboshgu (talk) 22:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I don't find either of those very hooky. I looked at the first AJC article and saw exactly what you wrote in your article. Yoninah (talk) 22:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I hope it wasn't exactly the same given close paraphrasing is bad. How are those less hook-y than ALT0? – Muboshgu (talk) 23:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • No, it wasn't close paraphrasing; I mean it was the same information. The earlier hooks are much more hooky with that word "inspired". Perhaps if one of the advocacy things she did was very popular, you could write "that after the fatal shooting of her son, Lucy McBath did this." I'm not finding much hooky in the article; is there any more information that you could add with an eye to a hook? Yoninah (talk) 23:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I've added a new source to the article, and thereby propose hook:
  • ALT4: ... that Democratic Party congressional candidate Lucy McBath made her decision to run for office during breakfast? (Source: here, "The tipping point, however, came during a breakfast meeting last June with a state legislator, ...'I just sat there for a moment and then it rolled off my tongue. That’s when I said, OK. And I’ve been off and running ever since.'")
I'm intentionally leaving out the details of the specific breakfast. Thoughts? ―Biochemistry🙴❤ 23:57, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
I guess so. Seems a little trivial. Should be "Democratic Party congressional candidate". Yoninah (talk) 00:00, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps there's a way to make it more hooky. You're right--that was a little ambiguous of me; I've updated the ALT4 hook accordingly. How about this?
  • ALT5: ... that a breakfast made Democratic Party congressional candidate Lucy McBath decide to run for office?
  • It was, after all, a specific breakfast. I'm a little wary of violating WP:BLP if I suggest a hook that is too likely to be misconstrued.―Biochemistry🙴❤ 00:47, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @Muboshgu: thank you. One more question: should the end of the ALT6 hook be "and ultimately run for Congress"? Yoninah (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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