Template:Did you know nominations/Lucius Manlius Torquatus (Praetor 49 BC)

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:50, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Lucius Manlius Torquatus (Praetor 49 BC)

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... that after his death Lucius Torquatus was used by Cicero as an advocate for Epicurean ethics? Source: Yonge, Charles Duke, (2016) "An Introduction to Treatise de Finibus"; Anthon, Charles & Smith, William. (1850) A New Classical Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography, Mythology and Geography. London. OCLC 66925767 Page 903.

Reviewed: Alchon Huns

Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC).

I will review the article. Szzuk (talk) 19:38, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

This is a recently listed good article. This is a quality article that is interesting and informative. Copyvio is clear, only noting direct quotes which are attributed in the article correctly. Each paragraph is referenced with offline sources noted properly with page numbers. QPD is done. The hook is the only weak point in that I found myself reading the first paragraph of each of the 3 wikilinked article to get a proper context for what I was reading, indicating the period of history, I would understand as 'Roman' would be helpful, the average word count for hooks is around 25 so you have a few more words to provide better context to the players, the addition of words like commander, philosophy, statesman as you see best would fix this. Szzuk (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

@Szzuk: Thank you for that. I am probably too close. And I never like to put too much in the hook as if you tell the whole story in miniture, why would anyone click through? Nevertheless that hook wasn't good enough so thanks for picking me up. How about:

ALT1 ... that after his death, politician, jurist and general Lucius Torquatus was portrayed by Roman writer Cicero as an advocate for Epicurean ethics?

("Quality article", huh?

) Gog the Mild (talk) 20:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

I figured you'd done that deliberately with the hook, I was working from the point of view of educating the lazy, maybe not worth it lol so I've undone the strike on Alt0, the promoter can choose which hook to use. Szzuk (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2018 (UTC)