Template:Did you know nominations/Lazy Afternoon (Barbra Streisand album)

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:16, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Lazy Afternoon (Barbra Streisand album)

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• ... that Lazy Afternoon was the first Barbra Streisand album to feature handwritten liner notes from the singer? Source: Official album booklet

• Reviewed: Erin Burns

Expanded by Carbrera (talk). Self-nominated at 1:09, 8 April 2017 (UTC).

• Just a question – how can the liner notes verify that this was her first album with handwritten notes? I understand that you may be able to use them as a primary source for the fact that the notes are handwritten, but unless the notes say that this is her first album to do so, it probably qualifies as WP:OR. 97198 (talk) 13:12, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

• @97198: She states in the notes, "While I usually let the vinyl speak for itself, I really had fun making this record, and I thought it might interest you to know something about each song. After all, I wouldn't want to be a chef who doesn't share her secrets!" Maybe this helps. Carbrera (talk) 16:31, 8 April 2017 (UTC).

• I don't think that verifies the hook as written, but if you disagree you can add a "new review" symbol below so you can get a second opinion. 97198 (talk) 14:14, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

• Second opinion here. I'm afraid this is rather clearly OR - the source only says that she "usually let the vinyl speak for itself", which implies that she sometimes did not (i.e. in previous albums). It doesn't say that this is the first time she had written notes, so I don't see how it can be used to make a statement to that effect. A new hook is needed (and I'd recommend changing that statement in the article given the OR problem). Prioryman (talk) 12:50, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

• Striking hook per original and second opinion. Carbrera, please provide a new hook. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:53, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that, after listening to Rupert Holmes's album Widescreen, Barbra Streisand contacted him to collaborate on Lazy Afternoon? Source: The Quietus
• On it. — LlywelynII 21:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  
  Timely; article long enough (~10.5k elig. chars.) and hook terse enough; grammar mistakes in hook fixed; article sourced but completely omits hook in its entirety let alone a source for it. Once that's fixed, Earwig finds copyvio but it's only from pulled quotes and is actually fine. — LlywelynII 21:39, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

• LlywelynII – Do you think you could help me in developing a better hook? I seem to be having some trouble with this. Carbrera (talk) 03:42, 26 May 2017 (UTC).

• Eh, just pick something in the article that's actually there and sourced. I can't give you one, since then I couldn't do any review of it. — LlywelynII 16:11, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that the title track of Barbra Streisand's Lazy Afternoon was suggested to her over dinner by Francis Ford Coppola? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

• G2G w/ALT2. Emended a bit: "contains several different genres of music" is true of a huge amount of albums and is not particularly interesting; FFC's involvement is. The odd formatting of his name comes from the liner notes, but should be fixed assuming that he actually is the same person. (FWIW, this source does claim these were her first liner notes ever.) I don't see anything online that explicitly clarifies it, but I see numerous accounts that FFC and Streisand were artistically involved during the period and nothing suggesting that there actually is a music producer named "Francis Coppola" apart from the movie director. — LlywelynII 23:33, 3 June 2017 (UTC)