Template:Did you know nominations/Karimabad, Pakistan

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Karimabad, Pakistan edit

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Baltit Fort

~~... that both Baltit Fort (pictured) and Karimabad village received the World Award of Tourism in 2000 when Indonesia, Australia, India and Britain and other countries competed?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Imran Khan (web developer)

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 06:39, 18 November 2015 (UTC).

article is fine, but concern with hook. What is the World Award of Tourism? Who awards it and how reputable are they? This is cited to an offline source, so I cannot find this out myself. Even if this fact is deemed acceptable for inclusion in the article, I would recommend removing it from the lead. Perhaps a more straightforward hook would be that the Karimabad village is overlooked by a UNESCO World Heritage site (Baltit Fort)? Jolly Ω Janner 06:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Jolly Janner Thanks for the review. I am now proposing ALT1 Hook ... that the Baltit Fort (pictured), a UNESCO World Heritage site, also provides a view of the Karimabad village?Nvvchar. 05:32, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Nvvchar, I much prefer ALT1, however, its claim needs to be added to the Karimabad article and with an inline citation at the end of the sentence. The info I originally derived about it was pulled from the article on Baltit Fort. Jolly Ω Janner 06:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry,Jolly Janner I could not find the exact reference to suit ALT1 hook text. I am therefore suggesting ALT2 hook ... that the Baltit Fort (pictured), which also functioned as a palace, was built when Karimabad village was under rulers of Mir of Hunza?Nvvchar. 01:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Nvvchar there's a couple of issues with that hook. First is a minor problem with the use of English; also should be before the word functioned. Secondly, the information from the hook is backed up by Encyclopaedia Britannica's article on Karimabad, which has no mention of Baltit Fort's use as a palace. The article will require an additional inline citation to back up that claim. Other than that, everything is fine. Jolly Ω Janner 02:26, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Jolly Janner. I have rectified the grammatical mistake in the hook and in the article. I have also added a ref to support the claim as a "palace". Nvvchar. 05:44, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

great, the Lonely Planet extract checks out. Good job. Jolly Ω Janner 05:56, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

@Nvvchar: I've detected some close paraphrasing with Encyclopaedia Britannica in the flora and fauna section. The species are listed in the same order as Britannica. Also the word and seems to have been mistranslated to apart form which has the opposite meaning in this case. Jolly Ω Janner 18:38, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Jolly Janner Thanks. Modified by reordering the names and also provided wikilinks with botanical names.Nvvchar. 12:34, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

The issues raised by Jolly Janner appear to have been addressed. The article is new enough, long enough, has excellent sourcing, and is now in compliance with all wikipedia policies. The alt 2 hook is verifiable to an online reference that is cited. This hook can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 14:07, 11 January 2016 (UTC)