Template:Did you know nominations/Joan Does Dynasty

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Joan Does Dynasty

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• ... that Susan J. Douglas called Joan Braderman's 1986 short film Joan Does Dynasty "a provocative and hilarious feminist analysis of Dynasty"? Source: Douglas, S.J. (1994). Where the Girls Are: Growing Up Female With the Mass Media. Random House Incorporated. p. 323

• Reviewed: Erlöserkirche, Munich

Created by Juanitavid (talk) and Sam Sailor (talk). Nominated by Sam Sailor (talk) at 21:11, 24 June 2018 (UTC).

• New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. I linked this article in Joan Braderman so it wouldn't be an orphan. I think the image is incorrectly licensed; shouldn't it be fair use? Please check on that. Regarding the hook, it's okay but it has a lot of blue links in it. It's also to be expected that a feminist commentator would give a feminist quote. I'm wondering if you could write something a little funnier in the spirit of Braderman's send-up of Dynasty? Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: In preparation for the DYK nomination, I contacted article creator and uploader of the image on Commons on June 22 in commons:Special:Permalink/307583809#Joan Does Dynasty, two days before nominating. I have not heard from them, but have posted on their talk page here. Looking at their contributions my assumption is that the image is correctly licensed. I'll try to think of a hookier hook. Sam Sailor 19:53, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

• @Sam Sailor: it has been a month since your last post. Please propose a new hook soon or we will have to close this nomination as unsuccessful. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 01:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Sam Sailor: here are some new hook ideas:
• ALT1: ... that video artist Joan Braderman superimposed herself onto scenes from the hit television series Dynasty to critique the characters, plots, and themes?
• ALT2: ... that Joan Does Dynasty with a feminist slant? Yoninah (talk) 22:28, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you, Yoninah, I think they are both better. ALT2 would spur my curiosity most of those two. Are we now awaiting a new reviewer? Sam Sailor 05:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• Yes. Calling on new reviewer to complete this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 11:00, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• I'm approving ALT1 and rejecting ALT2. ALT1 is interesting since I don't think it's that common to use superimposition in works of art. My only suggestion is that the word "hit" be removed from the hook since that can be interpreted as a peacock term. On the other hand, ALT2 seems imprecise: from the article text, it appears that the short film does not only have a feminist slant, but also a "Neopagan, Postsituationist, Socialist/Anarcho" one, and in any case there's no explicit mention in the article. ALT1 is cited to a source I can't access so accepted AGF. Should be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:01, 10 August 2018 (UTC)