Template:Did you know nominations/Hormones the Series
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:20, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hormones the Series edit
- ... that the popular Thai teen drama Hormones: The Series courted controversy for scenes featuring students attempting to have sex in a school classroom?
- Reviewed: Javed Manzil
5x expanded by Paul_012 (talk). Self nominated at 19:21, 11 August 2014 (UTC).
The article is expanded 5x, appears to be neutral, and QPQ done. The hook is engaging and is referenced properly. I see no problems with it. 001Jrm (talk) 06:50, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Per DYK rules, every paragraph needs at least one citation. The chart under Episodes also needs a citation. IMO, the page should be renamed Hormones: The Series. Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction does state: "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it is generally assumed that the work itself is the primary source for the plot summary." I'd assumed that the paragraphs concerning the storyline and episodes would fall under this guideline. I've added an in-line citation to the top paragraph of the Broadcast and Reception section. Regarding the article title, the name doesn't appear in promotional material (nor in news articles) with a colon. I did previously rename it to Hormones (TV series) but was reverted. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:12, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- My understanding of plot summaries in a DYK nom is that they don't need to be cited, but they cannot be lifted verbatim from a source. Charts, however, like the Episodes chart in this nomination, do have to have a source. Regarding the page name, I responded on the talk page to the anonymous poster who claimed that "Hormones The Series" is the official name, citing a YouTube promo. Looking at the promo, "Hormones" and "The Series" are written on 2 different lines, so the title could surely fit in with other Wikipedia TV titles as Hormones: The Series or better, Hormones (TV series). I would not let an anonymous reverter decide on the page name, and I think this should be resolved before the DYK nom passes. Best, Yoninah (talk) 19:49, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've responded on the talk page about the title. Regarding citing the episode table: it could be done, of course, but then the most reliable sources to cite would be the television broadcast of each individual episode itself as primary sources, which would significantly clutter the references list. I'm not sure if this is necessary, as the table doesn't currently include other information which needs explicit citation, such as ratings figures. I'll go ahead and add them if you insist. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:13, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Re the title: I think you should ask an administrator to change it back to Hormones (TV series). Re the cites, yes, you do need a cite for each episode to verify the episode number and broadcast date. Best, Yoninah (talk) 12:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done. Renamed to Hormones: The Series, since the parenthetical format was previously disputed. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:23, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Re the title: I think you should ask an administrator to change it back to Hormones (TV series). Re the cites, yes, you do need a cite for each episode to verify the episode number and broadcast date. Best, Yoninah (talk) 12:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've responded on the talk page about the title. Regarding citing the episode table: it could be done, of course, but then the most reliable sources to cite would be the television broadcast of each individual episode itself as primary sources, which would significantly clutter the references list. I'm not sure if this is necessary, as the table doesn't currently include other information which needs explicit citation, such as ratings figures. I'll go ahead and add them if you insist. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:13, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- My understanding of plot summaries in a DYK nom is that they don't need to be cited, but they cannot be lifted verbatim from a source. Charts, however, like the Episodes chart in this nomination, do have to have a source. Regarding the page name, I responded on the talk page to the anonymous poster who claimed that "Hormones The Series" is the official name, citing a YouTube promo. Looking at the promo, "Hormones" and "The Series" are written on 2 different lines, so the title could surely fit in with other Wikipedia TV titles as Hormones: The Series or better, Hormones (TV series). I would not let an anonymous reverter decide on the page name, and I think this should be resolved before the DYK nom passes. Best, Yoninah (talk) 19:49, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction does state: "The plot summary for a work, on a page about that work, does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it is generally assumed that the work itself is the primary source for the plot summary." I'd assumed that the paragraphs concerning the storyline and episodes would fall under this guideline. I've added an in-line citation to the top paragraph of the Broadcast and Reception section. Regarding the article title, the name doesn't appear in promotional material (nor in news articles) with a colon. I did previously rename it to Hormones (TV series) but was reverted. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:12, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
