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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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Georg Decker edit
Archduke Charles, by Decker
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that on the name day of his ten-year-old son Rudolf in 1869, the Emperor Franz Joseph gave him a portrait by Georg Decker of Archduke Charles, Duke of Teschen (pictured)?Source: "Wien, 20 April", in Neues Wiener Tagblatt, 20 April 1869 (p. 241, column 1) [in German]
- Reviewed: Charles Reynolds (cleric)
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 04:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC).
Interesting, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. - Sorry, I find the hook - and also the wording of the fact - too complicated. Can you start with the emperor? Who do think will be interested in the name day of some 10-year-old? Still better: start with the painting, - you don't want your readers to click on name day instead. Perhaps still better: relate a (different?) hook to the portrait of the emperor which shows better in small size? (order? street named after him?) - Article: please check for "he", - not always clear who that may be. What do you think of an infobox, to clarify that it's not about the emperor? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Gerda. I have added an Infobox and clarified a few pronouns. I guess I live in an alternative universe where Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria, and the run-up to the Mayerling incident are still interesting. I have drafted ALT1 and ALT2 along the lines you suggest and leave it to you to choose between them. Moonraker (talk) 04:37, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1:
... that for his name-day the Emperor Franz Joseph gave his ten-year-old son Rudolf a portrait of his Great-uncle Charles (pictured) by Georg Decker?Source: as above.
- ALT2:
...that Deckergasse is named after Georg Decker?Source: Die Gemeinde-Verwaltung der k.k. Reichshaupt- und Residenzstadt Wien (Bürgermeister of Vienna, 1910), p. 119
- Thank you. I don't like ALT1 because the ten years come too late. Perhaps like this (fewer distracting links):
- ALT3: ... that Franz Joseph I of Austria gave a portrait (pictured) by Georg Decker to his ten-year-old son?
- I like ALT2 better but not enough ;) - Mention one or more things to make it more attractive? I can't do that for you, or we'll need another reviewer. Say for what (with painting of the emperor)? when? where?" for a quirky just that lovely "k.k. Reichshaupt- und Residenzstadt Wien". - Just yesterday, I translated the article of a woman for whom a street in Zurich is named, thinking about using that for a hook, - funny coincidence. Before, I had a hymn title that might profit from your idiomatic translation - or could you perhaps find a place where it was already translated (completely)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Franz Joseph I of Austria gave a portrait (pictured) by Georg Decker to his ten-year-old son?
- Thanks, Gerda, that ALT3 looks good. Yes, a strange coincidence, and my Deckergasse page just goes to show you can find something to say about almost anything. I'm happy to have a go at Ach wie flüchtig, ach wie nichtig tomorrow, but for now I should get a little sleep before the dawn arrives. Moonraker (talk) 05:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
offline sources accepted AGF, image licensed and much better to just show than say something about --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 21 February 2018 (UTC)