Template:Did you know nominations/French submarine Fulton

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

French submarine Fulton

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Fulton

• ... that the French attack submarine Fulton was named after the American inventor of the steamboat, Robert Fulton? Source: http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyFrench.htm
  • ALT1:... that Robert Fulton, the inventor of the steamboat, was the namesake of a French attack submarine? Source: http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyFrench.htm
  • ALT2:... that a French diesel-electric attack submarine was named after the American inventor of the steamboat, Robert Fulton? Source: http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyFrench.htm

• Reviewed: Mesacmaea mitchellii

Created by L293D (talk). Self-nominated at 12:38, 3 November 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good, well-constructed article that reads well and is packed with data. I look forward to reading more about its operational history in due course. I'm taking the references in good faith. If I'm honest, the hook citation doesn't actually say the French named the sub after Fulton, although that seems highly likely. If we can't find a more specific hook I'd go with ALT1 as it is slightly looser. In addition, I have a couple of questions. First, in talking about the refit ("Service" section) what do "at the kiosk" and "at Headquarters" mean? Second, in terms of its fate, is "stricken" a nautical term? I've not come across it before. Does it mean "scrapped"? Bermicourt (talk) 17:43, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

• The periscope thing was a google translate error that I hadn't removed. Yes, "stricken" is a nautical term; it essentially means decommissioned. L293D (☎ • ✎) 20:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks, I'm content that this is good to go. Bermicourt (talk) 21:16, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

• The article has been altered since this review was done and the hook will need to be changed to match the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: if the problem was that the hook fact was no longer present in the article, that's fixed now. L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@L293D: The basic problem is that the article mentions Fulton invented the "first practical submarine" but does not mention a steamboat, while the hook mentions a steamboat but not the submarine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:15, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

this source said that Fulton invented the steamboat, but other sources disagree. Therefore, I'm proposing an other alt:

• ALT3: ... that the French attack submarine Fulton was named after the American inventor of the first commercially successful steamboat, Robert Fulton? L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:36, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

• Restoring tick now that article and hook match up. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 5 December 2018 (UTC)