Template:Did you know nominations/Edmond Debeaumarché

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The result was: promoted by G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 15:38, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Edmond Debeaumarché edit

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... that Edmond Debeaumarché (1906–1959) was a French postal worker who was honored with a stamp for his service with the French Resistance?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hafiz Mehmet.
Comment: There's maybe another hook or two in there.

Created by Drmies (talk), Xanthomelanoussprog (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 01:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC).

As much as I would like to review this DYK nom, it is not eligible so long as it is rated as a Stub.Georgejdorner (talk) 03:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

You're kidding. Well, next time such a major faux pas is committed please ping me. In the meantime, I did what you could have done also: I removed the stub template. Drmies (talk) 05:06, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Article is long enough and new enough. It seems well-referenced and neutrally worded, and there's no copying from the sources. Hook is OK, except that the claim of being honoured with a stamp is not sourced. This needs to be fixed—either add a citation for the claim, or change the hook to something supported by reliable sources. —Psychonaut (talk) 13:18, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
- I just had a look myself and was unable to locate any online reliable sources attesting to this claim. However, Héros de la Résistance mentions that the stamp series is catalogued by Yvert et Tellier and Dallay. Someone with access to the printed catalogues could add the necessary reference. —Psychonaut (talk) 13:17, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Psychonaut: I wasn't able to access those catalogues but this book mentions the stamp series on page 415 and lists each member in footnote 14. I've added the ref to the article.

I wasn't able to access these full texts but he is also mentioned in this French book on stamps and in a 1960 edition of Revue des deux Mondes discussing the release of the 1960 Heroes of the Resistance set here ("Ces cinq nouveaux timbres sont consacrés à Edmond Debeaumarché, Pierre Massé, Léonce Vieljeux, Maurice Ripoche et à l'abbé René Bonpain" - Translation: These five new stamps are dedicated to Edmond Debeaumarché, Pierre Massé, Léonce Vieljeux, Maurice Ripoche and Father René Bonpain). Fuebaey (talk) 22:22, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to complete the review, as there's been no response in over two weeks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, it's the nominator who hasn't been heard from. I'm still here. Am I supposed to close the review as a reject if the problem isn't addressed after a certain period? —Psychonaut (talk) 15:14, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, Psychonaut—I thought that Fuebaey's edit to the article had addressed the issue you raised with hook sourcing. From what I can see, the new inline source covers the "honored with a stamp for his service" part that you were concerned about. However, I don't see an actual inline source by the end of any sentence that stated he was a postal worker, so a reference for that still needs to be added. Paging Drmies to handle this and whatever else remains to be done. (Psychonaut, if there's anything else, can you please reiterate it here so we're clear on the remaining issues? Many thanks.) BlueMoonset (talk) 19:19, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Adding: unfortunately, recent additions to the article (the Honors and awards section in particular) have added several bare URLs to the article, and these will have to be fixed before approval can be given. Also, only one entry in the last three subsections is referenced, which is another problem. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:41, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I had no idea that User:Fuebaey added the reference—he mentioned his discovery here but never said that he had updated the article with the bibliographic details. I see now that he's actually done so. As for the postal worker claim, that is indeed sourced to the Ordre de la Libération website ("Il entre alors par concours aux PTT."). If the bare URLs are fixed then this DYK can be approved. —Psychonaut (talk) 19:55, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, and it's "fixed" with this gratuitous edit. @Psychonaut:, I had no idea there was anything wrong with this nomination. Will you PLEASE just ping me next time? Drmies (talk) 20:09, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I think I did all the other cleanup. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

All outstanding problems have been addressed. Good to go now. —Psychonaut (talk) 09:29, 2 February 2015 (UTC)