Template:Did you know nominations/Cummer Museum of Art and Gardens

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Cummer Museum of Art and Gardens

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The Cummer's English Garden, designed in 1910.

~~... that the Cummer Gardens are the only gardens in Florida that have preserved their original layout and planting schemes for over one hundred years? [1]~~

Improved to Good Article status by Mooeena (talk). Self-nominated at 17:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC).

Recent GA. The hook is referenced. No copyright or neutrality issue detected. Image is properly licensed. QPQ is not needed. But there are a bunch of uncited sentence and parts of paragraphs. Please go back and cite all those sentences or remove them. See [2]..-- KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Done--Mooeena (talk) 19:09, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:54, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Returned from prep. The hook fact about being the "only gardens in Florida" does not appear in the cited source. It would also enhance the hook to say that they are flower gardens. Yoninah (talk) 10:55, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

You're right, that isn't the correct source. I've done some digging and believe that the original page I got that information from has disappeared. The only reference to it is an intern's notes on a proposed video series.[3] I will suggest a new hook. This new source mentions in multiple places that the gardens retain their original design since 1919 and 1931, respectively.
ALT1:... that the Cummer Gardens have preserved their original layout and planting schemes for over one hundred years? Source: [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooeena (talk • contribs) 02:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to check ALT1. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

I came to approve, but sorry, don't find it easily, only in the lead.

I suggest you word a new hook. I'd like to see the full name Cummer Museum of Art and Gardens. You could mention one of the early designers and a year. Some of this might make a hook: "The Cummer Gardens were selected for the National Register of Historic Places because they represent the history of American landscape design in the first four decades of the twentieth century."

If you want to go with ALT1, please get the year 1910 sooner in the "English Garden" section and specifically say that layout and planting scheme were not changed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

ALT2:... that the Cummer Museum of Art and Gardens was selected for the National Register of Historic Places because its gardens were designed by landscape designers such as the Olmsted Brothers, Thomas Meehan & Sons, and Ellen Biddle Shipman? Source: [5] --Mooeena (talk) 22:49, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, much better. How many of our general readers will know the designers? I think we create more curiosity when we don't mention them, and we want readers to click on the museum, not the others, no?

ALT3:... that the Cummer Museum of Art and Gardens (gardens pictured) was selected for the National Register of Historic Places?

offline sources accepted AGF, image licensed and wanted, more attractive than a long hook! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2017 (UTC)