Template:Did you know nominations/Course Setting Bomb Sight
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:15, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Course Setting Bomb Sight edit
- ... that its ability to solve wind drift calculations made the Course Setting Bomb Sight the "most important bombsight" of World War I?
Created/expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed HMS Harvester (H19)
- Nope, that picture can't be used as it is clearly copyrighted (even CCed on Commons entry?) by the museum. It should be removed from Commons as well. I'll flag it there. Froggerlaura (talk) 13:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
- Incorrect, the Museum gave me explicit permission to post all of these under a CC-by-SA. It's been checked into OORTS. Pleas undo any edits you have made that claim this. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
- That photograph was not labeled with a OTRS tag and associated number, so I could not verify the museum gave you permission to release the photo under a CC-2.5 license. This pic also does not have the tag [1] and would face deletion. Anyway, the copyright symbol below the description with a link to the museum is not appropriate for a Commons photograph. Did they give you permission to release the photo into the public domain or only for use in this article? If it was only for the article and not release for universal use and modification, then the pic can be reposted to the English wiki with a fair-use description (still can't use at DYK). However, the British PD photo of the pilot using the device can be used here. If the museum released universal rights to distribute to you, then contact OTRS [2] to see what's holding up the tags (pic was uploaded on 10/16, still no tags). Froggerlaura (talk) 20:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
"I have discussed your request with the Director General and our commercial team and can confirm that the Museum will be able to supply the four bombsight images you require for Wikipedia on an Attribution licence. As part of the agreement we would wish to have the images credited “Copyright © Trustees of the Royal Air Force Museum” and a link to the Royal Air Force Museum’s online collection, Navigator (http://navigator.rafmuseum.org), on each of the image records. Is this possible?"
I included the copyright symbol at their request. If this somehow upsets the CC-by, which I don't believe it does, it can be removed. While this gets resolved, can we pass the article? Maury Markowitz (talk) 22:51, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
As far as the DYK goes, I agree with Harrias' review. Accept offline sources in good faith, added online backup cite to hook quote. Of the online sources, no instances of copyvio or close paraphrasing. It's move stable, fairly NPOV and meets length and time requirements. As far as the photo issues go, the museum can't keep their copyright and waive it too. I'm not sure if they requested the “Copyright © Trustees of the Royal Air Force Museum” modifier that they know that posting to Commons is essentially giving up copyright. You might want to clarify with them and put OTRS pending tags (available at link in previous post) on photos until you can confirm with them. And as a side note, should the page name be "Course Setting Bomb Sight" or "Course setting bomb sight"? Was it always referred to in caps? Froggerlaura (talk) 04:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ok I'll write to them and see what they say. Would the appropriate replacement be "CC-by-SA Trustees of the Royal Air Force Museum"? Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- That would be a more appropriate credit, assuming that is what they want. Froggerlaura (talk) 20:57, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Well I think we're all good now... "I'm happy for you to remove the "Copyright (C)" element of the Permission if this conflicts with Wiki Commons.". It looks like my first attempt are OORTs indeed failed, so I'm going to send both into the system now. Note: I'm still waiting on one more image from the Imperial War Museum that's much better than any of these, but I don't think I'll get it in time for 11/11. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- That would be a more appropriate credit, assuming that is what they want. Froggerlaura (talk) 20:57, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ok I'll write to them and see what they say. Would the appropriate replacement be "CC-by-SA Trustees of the Royal Air Force Museum"? Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
![[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Course_Setting_Bomb_Sight_Mk_IIH.jpg){kind=link}
I don't know how to re-add the image, I'm a bit confused about the editing because it changes so dramatically after you hit save. If someone's better on the technical side, the new image to use, an "action shot", is : File:Course Setting Bomb Sight in use.jpg
- Is this a good hook to save for Remembrance Day? --PFHLai (talk) 23:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Would be a good Remembrance Day hook, please save for 11/11. Froggerlaura (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)