Template:Did you know nominations/Carlton Intercontinental Hotel heist

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 11:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Carlton Intercontinental Hotel heist edit

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... ~~that the biggest jewel heist (location pictured) in French history had a total of $136 million, and that it occurred last month?~~

Reviewed: Bushshrike
Comment: Please could the number of days previously when this goes on the MP be updated, so 'last month' changed to 'eleven days ago' please? Thanks

Created by Matty.007 (talk). Self nominated at 19:40, 7 August 2013 (UTC).

Comment by nominator: I am away for a few days until Wednesday 14 August, so please be patient, I will not reply until then. Thanks, Mat ty.007 14:48, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Could not access some online sources, but details are adequate for now, and sources are reliable. I am unsure about the hook, even when well-verified. Perhaps rephrase the original hook, or create an alternative one, like the film reference. "Last month" should be replaced by "in July 2013". Also, there could be a major update in the future, so ITN nomination should be recommended. --George Ho (talk) 17:16, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Almost forgot: I copyedited the article, so I hope it doesn't affect my review. --George Ho (talk) 17:17, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Would it be possible to combine this nomination with Template:Did you know nominations/Milan Poparic and create a double hook? That would be most effective. By the way, "French history" should either be changed to "French history" or left unlinked. Surtsicna (talk) 19:04, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Using that as a hook would attract concerns of BLP violations. In this case, this is a multi-million dollar crime, and I wonder if making that person a suspect would help matters. However, I wouldn't try to attract these articles by using the "likely suspect" hook. --George Ho (talk) 02:15, 11 August 2013 (UTC) If you want to still use likely suspects, I recommend to avoid names. --George Ho (talk) 02:18, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, here is an alt: Alt 1:~~that $136 million was stolen at the Carlton Intercontinental Hotel heist in August 2013?~~ Mat ty.007 12:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

How about ALT1a: ... that jewels stolen at the Carlton Cannes (pictured) in the July 2013 heist are worth $136 million? --George Ho (talk) 14:00, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the alt, George Ho, sounds good. Mat ty.007 14:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I changed August to July in the Alt, correct month. Mat ty.007 14:27, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Renamed to 2013 Carlton Cannes heist. If you have problems, then request move revert at WP:RM/TR. --George Ho (talk) 00:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Renaming is fine: George Ho: is the hook (Alt1a) OK to go now? Thanks, Mat ty.007 07:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Under WP:DYKSG or WP:DYK rules, I cannot approve my own hook, especially a hook that I rephrased for you. --George Ho (talk) 15:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

George Ho: is the original hook useable? Mat ty.007 21:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

We'll leave that to another reviewer then. --George Ho (talk) 21:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Need another reviewer to check the original and ALT hooks, and anything else they feel necessary to complete the review. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what has already been checked, so will start afresh -

Article - created new on day of nomination 7 August, so new enough; 1876 characters of readable prose, so long enough; neutral; at least one inline citation to every paragraph; no copy vios detected using earwig/duplication detector (by the way, the Japan Times article is coming up as expired and I'm not managing to catch it on Wayback either but I guess people could access the hard copy if required); and assessed as start class so not a stub.
Hook ALT1a - within length criteria at 98 characters including (pictured); correctly formatted; correctly cited/supported by ref #3 in 'lead' section; and interesting enough. I have struck the other hooks for clarity;
QPQ done; image license is CC-SA-2.5.

Seems fine. SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:45, 29 September 2013 (UTC)