Template:Did you know nominations/Black-collared starling

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Black-collared starling

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Black-collared starling

~~... that black-collared starling (pictured) pairs run or fly after each other between courtship displays?~~ Source: "Between the two behaviours described by Boulière, the members of duos, presumably pairs, chased each other on the ground or in flight" Starlings and Mynas
- ALT1:... that black-collared starling (pictured) pairs preen each other? Source: "and also indulged in mutual allopreening" Starlings and Mynas

Reviewed: One-armed versus one-legged cricket

5x expanded by Gulumeemee (talk). Self-nominated at 03:37, 18 October 2018 (UTC).

Solid article on good sources, no copyvio obvious. - What I don't like in both hooks is the placement of pictured in the middle of a phrase. I am not sure the grammar of "pairs run or fly after each other" works. I didn't know "preening", so the link to allopreening didn't help me much. What do you think of avoiding all this by using the sounds they make? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

The image is licensed and a good illustration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

You're right, the hooks do sound a little awkward. I've added some interesting information about the bird's voice. How about this hook? Gulumeemee (talk) 07:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

ALT2:... that the black-collared starling (pictured) can sound like a jay, a bee-eater or a babbler? Sources: "a harsh kraak kraak reminiscent of a Jay Garrulus glandarius" Starlings and Mynas; "bee-eater-like purred whistle prrü; also soft, piping pü-pü-pü-pü recalling a hesitant Rufous-capped Babbler"

I like that much better, thank you, but for those who don't know the linked birds, they still dn't know how it sounds, and that those sound different. How about two of those and - as a quote perhaps - included "harsh 'kraak kraak'" and "purred whistle". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't really like to quote things like this, but perhaps this hook is better? Gulumeemee (talk) 09:58, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

ALT3:... that the calls of the black-collared starling (pictured) include a kraak kraak sounding like a jay and a whistling prrü like a bee-eater?

I like it better, but approve both, - the prep builder has a choice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:11, 23 October 2018 (UTC)