Talk:Worldwide Day of Genital Autonomy

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Ulf Dunkel in topic Work adding sources to supporters list

Unsourced list of supporters edit

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Supporting Organizations
Africa
  • Intact Africa
  • VMMC Experience Project
Australia
  • AIGA Inc.
Canada
  • Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project (CAN-FAP)
  • Children's Health & Human Rights Partnership
Denmark
  • Intact Denmark
  • Just a Snip
Finland
  • Sexpo Foundation
France
  • Droit au corps
Germany
  • Beschneidungsforum.de
  • Bundesweiter Arbeitskreis Säkulare Grüne - (Nationwide Working Group of Secular Greens)
  • BVKJ - (Professional Association of Paediatricians)
  • DAKJ - (German Academy for Childrens and Youth Medicine)
  • Deutscher Frauenring - (German Women Circle)
  • Facharbeitskreis Beschneidungsbetroffener - (Experts Circle of Circumcision Affected Ones) - at MOGiS e.V.
  • Forum Männer - (Forum Men in Theory and Practice of Gender Relations)
  • Giordano Bruno Foundation
  • HVD - (German Humanists Union)
  • IBKA - (International League of Non-religious and Atheists)
  • (I)NTACT
  • intaktiv
  • MOGiS e.V. - A Voice for Affected Ones
  • NetzwerkB - (Victim's Network of Gender-biased Violence)
  • Partei der Humanisten (Humanists Party)
  • Pirate Party Germany
  • Pro familia NRW
  • Schlupfwinkel e.V. Nuremberg
  • TABU e.V.
  • Terre des Femmes
  • Zentralrat der Ex-Muslime - (Central Council of Ex-Muslims)
Great Britain
Israel
  • Protect the Child
Kenya
  • Intact Kenya
  • VMMC Experience Project
Switzerland
  • Intact Switzerland
  • Pro Kinderrechte CH
Uganda
  • VMMC Experience Project
USA
  • Attorneys for the Rights of the Child, California
  • Bay Area Intactivists
  • Doctors Opposing Circumcision
  • NOCIRC

References

-- Jytdog (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

I am sorry that I am no very skilled WP editor, so please help me fixing this issue. I was asked to show the relevance of the event's article and I guessed it would be a good idea to show that even larger organizations worldwide support this event which is celebrated in a continuous row in the 5th year now. Do I understand your critics right that there is no other source than the list of supporting organizations on the campaign's own website which cannot be seen as a reliable source? Ulf Dunkel (talk) 11:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
Reading the descriptions of WP:DUE, I guess listing the above Supporting Organizations fulfulls the requirements as of "If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents;" from WP:DUE. Ulf Dunkel (talk) 08:52, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
Please see my note below. Jytdog (talk) 17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Mostly unsourced list edit

The following is mostly unsourced; moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN, do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking the content against them, and citing them. The content also violates WP:PROMO, in that this is content that would be on the website of the organizers, and Wikipedia is WP:NOTWEBHOST. Independent sourcing will be necessary to show this is WP:DUE.

Accompanying Events
2014

In Germany, a Scientific Symposium[1][2][3] took place one day earlier in Cologne, being organized by MOGiS e.V. and pro familia NRW.

2015

In Germany, the WWDOGA was followed by a "Genital Autonomy" conference in the Haus der Jugend (Youth Hostel) in Frankfurt/Main.

2016
  • Australia
    • Sydney: Intactivists from AIGA Inc. demonstrated in William Street.
  • Germany
    • The WWDOGA in Germany was accompanied by four in film and discussion events, where the films Circumcision by Ari Libsker, Hibos Lied - Weibliche Genitalverstümmelung und die Macht der Tradition by Renate Bernhard and Sigrid Dethlof, and the animated short film Hermes und Aphrodite by Gregor Zootsky were shown in Munich, Düsseldorf, Cologne, and Berlin.[4]
  • Great Britain
    • London: Intactivists from London demonstrated in the city with banners and info sheets.
  • USA
    • Cathedral City (California): On two days, films around the topic of circumcision were shown and discussed.
    • Charleston (WV): On the WWDOGA, the 3rd day of the Mid-Atlantic, White House & Ob-Gyn Circumcision Crisis Protests took place.
    • Denver: Intactivists demonstrated between California and Stout Street.
    • New York: Intactivists demonstrated peacefully against circmcision of children at the Union Square.[5]
    • San Francisco: The Bay Area Intactivists demonstrated in the streets.[6]
2017
  • Germany
    • The WWDOGA in Germany was introduced by a press conference in Berlin on May 4th, and closed by a symposium Jungenbeschneidung in Deutschland - eine Bestandsaufnahme[7][8] (Circumcision on boys in Germany - an inventory) at the university Düsseldorf on May 8th.
  • USA
    • Denver: Intactivists demonstrated between California and Stout Street.
    • Los Angeles: Genital Autonomy - America hosted films and discussions of the common ground surrounding non-therapeutic genital cutting of male, female, and intersex children.
    • San Diego: Intactivists demonstrated in front of the ACOG and informed the doctors about the harmful consequences of RIC.
    • San Francisco: The Bay Area Intactivists demonstrated in the streets.

-- Jytdog (talk) 14:47, 13 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have tried to find as much reliable sources as possible and will try even harder to find more. You are correct that I didn't cite them as expected. Is it okay if I learn how to correctly cite them and then restore the adjusted content? Ulf Dunkel (talk) 11:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
Independent sources, are what is needed. Press releases and the like are not OK to show that the content is W:P:DUE. Please do keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and its mission is to provide the public with enduring, accepted knowledge (like Encyclopedia Brittanica). Wikipedia is not a webhost for the organizations that run this event, nor is it a site for advocacy for anything, nor a place to promote anything (not a product, nor a commemorative day), per WP:PROMO.
Sourcing content from independent, reliable sources helps the editing community remain focused on the mission. Jytdog (talk) 17:16, 14 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Work adding sources to supporters list edit

I created this section, for work to happen to add refs to the supporters section. The work done in these diffs changing the section above, is now here. I have signed this section with the editor's signature who did that work. Please update the refs here, and please see my note below. thx Jytdog (talk) 17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Supporting Organizations
Africa
  • Intact Africa
  • VMMC Experience Project
Australia
  • AIGA Inc.
Canada
  • Canadian Foreskin Awareness Project (CAN-FAP)
  • Children's Health & Human Rights Partnership
Denmark
  • Intact Denmark
  • Just a Snip
Finland
  • Sexpo Foundation
France
  • Droit au corps
Germany
  • Beschneidungsforum.de[1]
  • Bundesarbeitsgemeinschaft Säkulare Grüne - (Nationwide Working Community of Secular Greens)[2]
  • BVKJ - (Professional Association of Paediatricians)[3]
  • DAKJ - (German Academy for Childrens and Youth Medicine)
  • Deutscher Frauenring - (German Women Circle)
  • Facharbeitskreis Beschneidungsbetroffener - (Experts Circle of Circumcision Affected Ones) - at MOGiS e.V.[4]
  • Forum Männerrechte - (Forum Men in Theory and Practice of Gender Relations)[5]
  • Giordano Bruno Foundation[6]
  • HVD - (German Humanists Union)[7]
  • IBKA - (International League of Non-religious and Atheists)[8]
  • (I)NTACT
  • intaktiv e.V.[9]
  • M.E.L.I.N.A - Inzestkinder/Menschen aus VerGEWALTigung e.V.[10]
  • MOGiS e.V. - A Voice for Affected Ones
  • NetzwerkB - (Victim's Network of Gender-biased Violence)[11]
  • Partei der Humanisten (Humanists Party)[12]
  • Pirate Party Germany[13]
  • Pro familia NRW[14]
  • Schlupfwinkel e.V. Nuremberg
  • TABU e.V.[15]
  • Terre des Femmes[16]
  • Zentralrat der Ex-Muslime - (Central Council of Ex-Muslims)
Great Britain
Israel
  • Protect the Child
Kenya
  • Intact Kenya
  • VMMC Experience Project
Switzerland
  • Intact Switzerland
  • Pro Kinderrechte CH
Uganda
  • VMMC Experience Project
USA
  • Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (ARC), California[17]
  • Bay Area Intactivists
  • Doctors Opposing Circumcision[18]
  • NOCIRC

References

  1. ^ "Weltweiter Tag der Genitalen Selbstbestimmung - 7. Mai 2016". Beschneidungsforum.de.
  2. ^ "7. MAI 2014 – WORLDWIDE DAY OF GENITAL AUTONOMY: SprecherInnenkreis der Säkularen Grünen unterstützt Aktion am 7. Mai in Köln". BAG Säkulare Grüne.
  3. ^ "Schutz der körperlichen Unversehrtheit" (PDF). KJA 5/2016, S. 320. BVKJ.
  4. ^ "7. MAI 2017 - WORLDWIDE DAY OF GENITAL AUTONOMY – 5 JAHRE "KÖLNER URTEIL"". Experts Circle of Circumcision Affected Ones at MOGiS e.V.
  5. ^ "Auf zur Demonstration gegen Jungenbeschneidung in Köln". Forum Männerrechte.
  6. ^ "Worldwide Day of Genital Autonomy - gbs unterstützt Demonstration für genitale Selbstbestimmung in Köln". Giordano Bruno Foundation.
  7. ^ "Genitale Selbstbestimmung - Intaktivisten machen am 7. Mai auf Folgen der "Beschneidung" aufmerksam" (PDF). HVD.
  8. ^ "WORLDWIDE DAY OF GENITAL AUTONOMY - Einladung zur Demo am 7. Mai in Köln". IBKA.
  9. ^ "Erfolgreicher Worldwide Day of Genital Autonomy 2017". intaktiv e.V.
  10. ^ "Afrikaner leisten Widerstand gegen Beschneidungsrituale: 7. Mai - WORLDWIDE DAY OF GENITAL AUTONOMY". M.E.L.I.N.A e.V.
  11. ^ "netzwerkB unterstützt den "Internationalen Tag der genitalen Selbstbestimmung"". NetzwerkB.
  12. ^ "Weltweiter Tag der genitalen Selbstbestimmung". Partei der Humanisten.
  13. ^ "Morgen findet in #Köln die Kungebung "Weltweiter Tag der genitalen #Selbstbestimmung" statt".
  14. ^ "Stellungnahme von pro familia zur Frage der Jungen-Beschneidung" (PDF). Pro familia NRW.
  15. ^ "Auch dieses Jahr: Demonstration 7. Mai vor dem Kölner Landgericht!". TABU e.V.
  16. ^ "Vierter Jahrestag des Kölner "Beschneidungs"-Urteils: 40 Organisationen feiern weltweit am 7. Mai den „Worldwide Day of Genital Autonomy"". TERRE DES FEMMES.
  17. ^ a b "Genital Autonomy Day" (PDF). ARC Vol. 10-3, p18. ARC.
  18. ^ "Resource". Doctors Opposing Circumcision.

--— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ulf Dunkel (talkcontribs) 11:05, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Ulf, you have added a bunch of WP:SPS. You are created a new thing here in Wikipedia, and that is what we call WP:OR. Wikipedia is not a place to do this kind of work, per that policy. This belongs at the official website or the like, not here in WP. Wikipedia is not a webhost as is described in the WP:PROMO policy. Jytdog (talk) 17:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for pointing me to this issue, Jytdog. As this article describes an annual event which is rather new (5th year in a row), what would be reliable sources as per the WP policy? Ulf Dunkel (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
In general, what reliable sources are is discussed on this page, but specifically, we would need independent reliable sources that discuss this "day" in depth(more than a passing mention) and explain how it is notable. These would be things like independent news stories, books, etc. that are not associated with those that put on this day or are involved in the cause. They don't have to be in English(Der Spiegel or Le Monde would be fine) My brief searches haven't found much on it, which is why I suggested a merge (and still believe it is the best thing) with the article on circumcision controversies. 331dot (talk) 07:25, 16 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
What about the sources which still are listed as references in the main article World Wide Day of Genital Autonomy? Ulf Dunkel (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2017 (UTC)Reply