Talk:Windows Me

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System Restore info bogusEdit

The information on system restore is totally bogus!

  • 'System Restore caused a number of major problems' -- problems not major
  • 'performance, which some regard as never being a Windows strength in the first place, was noticeably reduced' -- performance not impacted; system restore activities only occur at specific times.
  • 'and because it automatically recreated previous system states on every reboot, it made it very difficult for the non-expert user to implement a desired change, even a necessary one such as removing a virus or an unwanted program.' -- Totally wrong. System Restore only restores things if the user selects it upon booting in Safe Mode or from the UI.

--- As someone who fixes computers for a living, I highly disagree with the above, and believe that whomever wrote that has never had to fix ME using SR (or in spite of it), and probably has has very little experience with ME in the first place. SR excels at restoring virii and problems; look on the web pages of Symantec and other AV companies where they explicitely instruct users on how to turn off SR. I definitely consider restoring a virus to a clean system to be a "major problem". Also, the "performance not impacted" claims depend on the SR activities happening only in idle times; this is, of course, an ideal that happens much less often then would be desired, and therefore adds to the the already painful slowness in the 9x series. This is without even mentioning the disk usage. The poster may have a point that SR should not be happening "automatically", but I've had calls where it seems to have done so (although I can't completely rule out user error) and therefore I, like all other professional IT techs, do not trust it.

The whole paragraph in question was worded too complicatedly and I couldn't make much sense of it. I rewrote it in a way which I hope is more NPOV. - Brian Kendig 20:04, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Requested move 16 January 2017Edit

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The result of the move request was: closed again per WP:SNOW with no move - Maria Kappatou (talk · contribs · page moves · current autoblocks · block log) has requested to be perm-blocked and we thank Anna Frodesiak (talk · contribs · logs) for fulfulling it. Now on with the show. (non-admin closure) <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 23:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC) <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 23:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Windows MEWindows Millennium Edition – The proper name of the product is Windows Millennium Edition; Windows Me is merely a marketing name. Maria Kappatou (talk) 05:31, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Oppose per last two move discussion: this and this. Also, it looks like this certain user is intent on harassing us with more and more move requests. —Codename Lisa (talk) 05:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Clearly Windows ME is the most widely known name. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 09:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose per COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE, and even WP:RECOGNIZABLE. The average reader doesn't even know it stands for "Millennium Edition". Just follow the guidelines and policies. Why do people keep nominating things like this? Aside, to short-circuit any follow-on proposal for "Windows Me": The "clever" rendering of it to look like the word "Me" with a lower-case e in the graphical logo is the marketing bit we don't do, per MOS:TM. Sources consistently refer to it as Windows ME. in a zillion places makes it explicitly clear this is an acronym for "Millennium Edition", so it gets the all-caps treatment like any other acronym. At least once per month we move a lower-cased or sentence-cased product/company acronym to upper case, regardless of the logo treatment (and, concomitantly, remove the ALL-CAPSing of non-acronym trademarks like Sony to sentence case). Weird-casing exceptions are exceedingly rare (iPhone, iPad), and are only done when (per MOS:TM again) reliable sources overwhelmingly follow the unusual style (this is also why we have Deadmau5 not "Deadmaus" but do not have "P!nk" for Pink (singer) or "Alien3" for Alien 3).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  13:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and SMcCandlish's comments. Now... has this gone on long enough to propose that Maria K get a topic ban for disruption? Jeh (talk) 14:14, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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Summary of all the ME vs Me and Millennium discussions and debatesEdit

The consensus is: no support for change away from "ME".

The user who wanted this is indefinitely blocked.

Before leaving, she added a sourced section called "Name capitalisation and pronunciation". It remains as of this posting.

I hope this is the last we hear of all of this, and that all parties are satisfied and we can all move on. Thanks to everyone for their patience. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:26, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 3 May 2019Edit

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The result of the move request was: moved. There is a definite consensus for this requested move. (closed by non-admin page mover) qedk (t c) 17:00, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Windows MEWindows Me – Not only does Microsoft itself use an uncapitalized E, I looked over the References, and practically all of them refer to the OS as Windows Me. See: TechTV, SuperSite for Windows,, The Register, TechRepublic, PC World 1, PC World 2. That's almost all the third-party sources in this article with the one exception of PCMag who uses the ME capitalization. Aren't we supposed to use the most common name? It seems clear to me that Me is the more common version of the name. Sek-2 (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

  • Support move per nom. Most sources leave the e uncapitalized. O.N.R. (talk) 22:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - it was called Me in writing and was pronounced Me. Even the logo clearly says Me. ME is just what us consumers like to call it, but we have to stay encyclopedic so yeah.—Mythdon (talkcontribs) 00:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Support as the logo is more than sufficient in itself - Microsoft branded it "Me" and there can't be any dispute or disagreement. Bungle (talkcontribs) 18:33, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Support but reject the above votes that are WP:OR basing themselves on interpretation of a logo. Google Ngrams shows to me convincing proof of its WP:COMMONNAME. -- Netoholic @ 20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
@Netoholic: From WP:OR: The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist: how is an official logo not reliable or published? I feel you have greatly misinterpreted the meaning of "original research" in a manner wholly unnecessary given your otherwise agreeable stance to the fundamental question. I don't appreciate my vote being discounted and categorised in this manner. Perhaps ironically, I don't think "Me" should be the correct branded variant, but am more than prepared to accept it on the basis of it being officially branded as such. Bungle (talkcontribs) 22:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Look at the arguments above - they aren't saying "xxxxxxx source says that the logo represents 'Me' over 'ME'". These Wikipedians are themselves interpreting a logo and stylization, and from that extrapolating. Such a thing is against WP:TITLES policy. --Netoholic @ 02:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't think an academic-esque explanation is necessary when citing the logo - the officially designated branding of a product by the developer. The logo also happens to be used in the same manner on the brand packaging, which replicates the styling as seen in the logo (as it's essentially the logo on the box). I happen to disagree with you on "OR", though as we both find ourselves in ultimate agreement on the proposal, I don't think we need to go further. Bungle (talkcontribs) 08:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment. Netoholic is correct here. We use WP:COMMONNAME to determine titles, not the official name. That's why it was moved here in the first place and a move to proposed title was later rejected. Calidum 13:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
    • Previous move requests aren't necessarily right or wrong, but a reflection of opinion from those who chose to express at the time. Maybe a rename instead to Windows Millennium Edition would be another option as that would bypass any issues with the acronym? Bungle (talkcontribs) 13:32, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
      • I don't really have an opinion either way at this time. I was just pointing out that common name should take precedent over the logo and/or official name. Calidum 04:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. "ME" is an acronym for "Millennium Edition"; "Me" is a marketing stylization. Both "ME" and "Me" are commonly used in sources. How Microsoft markets the software is less relevant than our MOS:TM guidelines. feminist (talk) 08:17, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Weak Support - I don't care all too much, but Windows Me is more common than Windows ME, hence the status. AwesumIndustrys (talk) 19:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

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20 years Windows me was released to manufacturingEdit

Someone need to change it to 20 years for the release to manufacturing. Ken choo (talk) 03:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

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