Talk:Windows 98

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Initial Sales claimsEdit

"It sold an estimated 58 million licenses,... " This sales claim does not seem to have any reference source backing it up, furthermore it is probably incorrect. An official Microsoft press release [1] from the 9/2/1999 indicates that Windows 98 sold 25 million licenses. And the following article from Windows IT Pro seems to indicate the Windows 98 had sold 45 million licenses during the time Windows 98SE was released to the market [2], of course the latter is not an official press release from Microsoft so we cannot ascertain how accurate it is, however given both these articles it seems that the claim the sentence makes is probably false.

What's your point? The sources you linked are from 1999, the source claiming the 58 million figure (why are you saying there isn't one? There is), is from 2004. The sales figures are from International Data Corporation. --Sek-2 (talk) 19:59, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
My point is the statement is misleading, the link explicity states "that over 58 million copies of Windows 98 were installed worldwide at the end of 2003". Installed base at any given time is not the same as the total number of licenses sold over the lifetime of a product. The sentence as it currently is strongly implies that.
Well... if the source says *installed*, as it does, why would we say otherwise? I don't know if there we licences allowing multiple installations, but there sure existed installations without licences, so it is not the same and we should not say it is. If a source says "black", we do not say "dark blueish", do we? We either ignore, as unreliable, or say what it says. So, I'll change it. - Nabla (talk) 10:28, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
The line I am quoting is at the top of the article - "It sold an estimated 58 million licenses, and Microsoft ended mainstream support for both Windows 98 and 98 SE on June 30, 2002, and extended support on July 11, 2006.", which misinterprets what the article says. I argee with you that we should not re-interpret the article, it would be more accurate to state that as of December 2003 it had an installed base of 58 million copies, not that it sold 58 million copies.
As a retro enthusiast who has played around with installing Windows 98 for fun recently, Windows 98 has no way of restricting the number of times you can use 1 license key. The only restriction is that the key must match the version. (ie Windows 98SE Retail vs Windows 98 Retail vs Windows 98SE OEM, etc) However, in order to finish installing the operating system, you do need a product key. Admittedly, my adventures in installing Windows 98 come from the same few English ISOs from WinWorld, so it is possible other versions do have restrictions on uses/versions of some kind. However, the product keys I have used come from a random thread on Reddit, so if random keys on Reddit work on the ISOs from WinWorld, I have no reason to believe there is any kind of key use restriction or matching key restriction. However, I think we can safely say Windows 98 had sold at least 45 million copies[3], and I think it wouldn't be entirely unfounded to say it may have sold as many as 58 million copies[4]. RetroFanboy990 (talk) 18:44, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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