Talk:Wind power in Turkey/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 05:02, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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I'd like to note here that most of the GA1 comments were addressed (which bolstered the coverage scope of the article), but the reviewer unfortunately left some GANs high and dry. This new review will tackle some areas of the GA criteria that VR had not yet addressed. 7-day hold to Chidgk1. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:31, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

If I overlooked any GA1 comments please let me know Chidgk1 (talk) 06:56, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Copy changes

Lead

• Some spaces are needed in certain unit invocations. The first is here: "10GW". There are a few more throughout.

Changed all I noticed. Do you know if there is a bot to check/fix this? If you don't know I might ask at tech helpdesk as I make this error very often in other articles too. If no bot I may be able to spot them with my spellchecker. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:22, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't think so. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:47, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• And, according to modelling — drop the leading "and" as unencyclopedic voice

Done - by the way if you spot more of these minor copyedit type problems feel free to edit yourself if you prefer - I can always revert if meaning accidentally changed Chidgk1 (talk) 06:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

History

• While the installed capacity of wind power was 19 megawatts (MW) in 2006, it grew to 140 MW by 2007, to 1,265 MW at the end of 2010 and then to 1,645 MW by 2011. I'd add a comma at the end of 2010; even if you don't normally use a serial comma, the number of numbers here makes it otherwise possibly hard for a reader to parse.

Done Chidgk1 (talk) 06:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Wind farms

• Render "4000" with a space

Sorry I don't understand what you mean Chidgk1 (talk) 06:34, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

I meant to say "with a comma". Done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:46, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• The north-west is the windiest, averaging about 7 m/s at 50 m high, and has most wind farms. Mountain ranges in the west run at right angles to the coast so wind flows easily inland. Also the north-west uses a lot of energy, so there are only a few wind farms in other parts of the country. Add "the" after "and has", a comma after "coast", and a comma after "Also"

doneChidgk1 (talk) 06:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• "long-term" with a hyphen as an adjective

doneChidgk1 (talk) 06:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• "For an off grid zero energy house," — add comma

doneChidgk1 (talk) 06:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• "63GW" space

doneChidgk1 (talk) 06:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• There is collaboration with Denmark to plan offshore wind power, the Marmara Sea is considered most suitable, but the Black Sea is also a possible location, as is the Aegean near Çanakkale. Change the first comma to a colon. Right now, this reads something like a run-on.

doneChidgk1 (talk) 06:52, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• specifically "active power control & frequency regulation — change the ampersands in this quote to an and and add a that before the quote begins

doneChidgk1 (talk) 06:52, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Environmental impact

• This paragraph has multiple things going on: Wind farms are prohibited on globally important bird migration routes (critical migration bottlenecks such as İstanbul Strait, Çanakkale Strait, Belen in Hatay, Borçka in Artvin), some of which are high wind speed areas. On average 1 or 2 birds are estimated to be killed by each turbine each year, mostly small and medium size birds. But the study found that the number of fatalities was not related to the number of birds or flights near the turbine. Environmental impact reports are more stringent for wind farms over 50 MW.

• Add "including" before "critical"; spell out one and two (MOS:NUMERAL); add hanging hyphens (small- and medium-size birds); change "But" to "However,"

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:09, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Write wind farms as two words for consistency with the rest of the page. Add a comma after "25 years" as the introductory clause is unusually long

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:02, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Economics

• Add a comma after "Ember"

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• "Feed-in tariff" should be written with its hyphen, which is presently not used consistently or in the section header.

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• From 2005 there was a feed-in tariff in Turkish lira which was not much taken up, from 2011 to 2020 it was in dollars and then lira again but with different rules. The feed in tariff applies for 10 years. There are extra payments for domestic content. The first sentence needs a reflow. Something like From 2005, there was a feed-in tariff in Turkish lira which met with poor market uptake. After being denominated in dollars from 2011 to 2020, the tariff reverted to lira with new rules.

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Two paragraphs in a row start with "In 2019".

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:32, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Since April 2022 low-cost generators such as wind have had their wholesale prices capped (this does not affect unlicensed and FiT); this can be considered a type of windfall tax; as of May it is unclear whether the money will be general tax or will be used to subsidize high cost generators such as gas. Several items.

• The sentence needs better structure to avoid having two semicolons. The "as of May" item should be its own sentence.

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:37, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Add the article "a" before general.

doneChidgk1 (talk) 07:37, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• "High-cost" should be hyphenated.

done Chidgk1 (talk) 07:37, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Update the information in the "it is unclear" section, as it is now August.

Unfortunately still unclear Chidgk1 (talk) 06:47, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Other items

• Run a date script (User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates) to improve the presentation of dates in the reference section.

I have installed but cannot see in tools section so have asked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM_dates#Can_it_work_with_Vector_(2022)? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:14, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

It does not work with the 2017 wikitext editor, I know that, so I have done this for you, @Chidgk1. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:46, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• Archive references with IABot. (Do this after doing the above.)

Ran bot with option "Add archives to all non-dead references" but it made no changes. Chidgk1 (talk) 08:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

• Earwig turns up one issue to address. The passage at heights of 50 meters above ground level, and in areas with a wind speed exceeding 7.5 m/s should be reworded as too close to the copyrighted text from the Ministry of Energy. The comma would need to be removed anyway: User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences.

Done Chidgk1 (talk) 05:57, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• The images and diagrams are freely licensed. One image has no caption; the issue has to do with the use of {{excerpt}} to bring it over, as the article wikitext does not invoke it. The caption may have to be added at the originating page, or it may be an issue with the way the template and underlying module work. The transcluded images also lack alt text if it is not provided at the page; I attempted to add alt text to the Dağpazarı image, and it did not carry over, probably because it was in the infobox. Adding to the Çanta image worked fine. In the article proper, the map and chart need alt text, which can both be |alt=Refer to caption; the two images already have it. I would like to see alt text added to those, and as to the other images, this would be a good question for someone with more experience in module code.

Re alt text I have added one manually and added my support for the change request at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166094#8192634

Re captions I have added the missing English captions to Wikimedia Commons and asked for help at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Are_captions_automatically_copied_from_Wikimedia_Commons? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

The issue is not with Commons, Chidgk1. The issue is that {{excerpt}} and its underlying module are not picking up the alt text provided for images when these are in infoboxes. Once the refs are archived, I will pass the page because the issue is not addressable without pursuing other changes (I ask for this not because it's in GA spec but mostly to make editors aware of it!). One other reason I ask for alt text is that it turns up a surprising number of technical omissions, such as infoboxes that are incapable of accepting alt text for images (not an issue here or in the dependent pages, but it was one I discovered in a GAN recently), and thereby is a "stress test" of this accessibility function. I did add alt text to the last image defined in this article. I've posted on the module talk page and WP:VPT to try and figure out a solution. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:19, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks - I have put that talk page on my watch list. Meanwhile I have deleted one pic as boring and moved the other to the lead. Chidgk1 (talk) 08:33, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Will pass. Alt text isn't supported yet, but I at least will have gotten the ball rolling on that to improve accessibility. Will pass. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Sammi Brie Thanks for your very useful review - if there is anything I have missed or anything else please let me know Chidgk1 (talk) 08:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

WP:PARAGRAPH "One-sentence paragraphs are unusually emphatic, and should be used sparingly."204.237.51.120 (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

The reason for this structure is the use of transclusion of the leads of several articles on wind farms, not a writing flaw in this article. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.