Talk:Western Global Airlines

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Aircraft operated

I have edited the fleet table to reflect the actual aircraft this airline operates, and it has been reverted. Western Global does not operate four 747-400Fs, but rather operates four 747-400BCFs. There is a difference. Also, the number of aircraft listed in the information table and the number of aircraft listed in the fleet table do not add up. SurferSquall (talk) 01:08, 27 December 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SurferSquall (talk • contribs) 01:06, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

The cited refs just says that they are 747-400s. What ref do you have that says they are "Boeing 747-400BCF"? - Ahunt (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

On planespotters.net, the aircraft are listed as having been originally in service with passenger airlines, which by default makes them either 747-400BCF or 747-400BDSF. SurferSquall (talk) 01:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Correction- One is indeed a 747-400F, one is a 747-400BDSF, and two are 747-400BCF. SurferSquall (talk) 01:18, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

You can't just add claims like this without citing an actual source, as explained in WP:PROVEIT. Do you have an actual source that can be cited? - Ahunt (talk) 01:47, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Western-Global-Airlines is my source, and I’d be happy to find others when I have the time. SurferSquall (talk) 01:48, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

This source is the third source on the References list for this article. SurferSquall (talk) 01:50, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes that was the source that I indicated does not support your claims, https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Western-Global-Airlines says all are "Boeing 747-400" and individually specifies each as a Boeing 747-400(F). Even the individual pages on each aircraft do not support your claims. Do you have an actual source that says these are 747-400BCFs, because that one doesn't. Where did you find that information? - Ahunt (talk) 02:12, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Are you looking at a different page somehow? My planespotters page clearly says otherwise….. SurferSquall (talk) 02:14, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I know what’s wrong. On the website referenced, it lists the aircraft as 747-400F as a basic designator, and shows the specific designations once a user logs into that website. It is an error with that website, and someone should probably find a different reference for the fleet of this airlinw SurferSquall (talk) 02:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Is there a way to show you a screenshot through Wikipedia? SurferSquall (talk) 02:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

No there is really no way to show a screenshot of a signed-in website. It would be a copyright violation anyway. A better ref would be helpful, because people will try to verify the information and it will just get removed again, as "not in citation". - Ahunt (talk) 02:20, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I don’t know what to do about this then. The information I added is correct, I give my word on that- but obviously my word isn’t good enough for a Wikipedia edit. This could be a broader issue as most airline articles on Wikipedia use Planespotters as a reference. SurferSquall (talk) 02:22, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I’ve sent a message to that website’s contact page about the issue. SurferSquall (talk) 02:23, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you add one of those notice boxes to the top of the article, to let readers know of the issue if that’s possible SurferSquall (talk) 02:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

There is no banner for that, but I can add tags to the specific items. - Ahunt (talk)

Thank you for your help. Im fairly new to editing on Wikipedia, and I really appreciate it SurferSquall (talk) 03:01, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

No problem, we do try to encourage new editors here! - Ahunt (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2022 (UTC)