Talk:Two-state solution (Cyprus)

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The following is removed from "See also" section with the pretext "irrelevant" and "irrelevant examples, nothing slightly related to the topic":

However, "dissolution (politics) and its past examples" are relevant with "the two-state solution" in Cyprus island. The officialization of the current de facto two-state definitely would be another dissolution example.

The two-state solution for the Cyprus dispute is the proposed permanent division of the island of Cyprus into a Turkish Cypriot state in the north and a Greek Cypriot state in the south. The two-state solution includes as a possibility the legalization of the status quo, where Greek Cypriots govern the southern part of the island and Turkish Cypriots govern the northern part.

- Two-state solution (Cyprus), Turkish and Greek.
- "Dissolution of Czechoslovakia to Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1991". Hence, it is relevant. 78.164.55.5 (talk) 18:51, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

No it is not. None of your examples refers to it as two state solution. Beshogur (talk) 19:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Even if that was a correct example, I don't see any mention of real two state solution like Israel-Palestine. Because it is irrelevant to this topic, totally different things. Beshogur (talk) 19:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
The VERY wiki-page (Two-state_solution_(disambiguation)) includes:

The Two-state solution may refer to:
Two-state solution, Israel and Palestine
Two-state solution (Cyprus), Turkish and Greek
Two-state solution (Iraqi–Kurdish negotiations)
Dissolution of Czechoslovakia to Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1991
Partition of India in 1948

Also:
https://www.jpost.com/Israel/Israel-should-follow-Czech-example-of-two-state-solution
"Israel should follow Czech example of TWO-STATE SOLUTION" 78.164.55.5 (talk) 20:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

(1) Dissolution (politics): Dissolution in politics is when a state, institution, nation, or administrative region DISSOLVES or CEASES TO EXIST, USUALLY separating into two or more entities, or being annexed.

Two-state solution is a form of Dissolution.

Dissolution does NOT necessarily imply that the newly-formed entities (after the dissolution, whether de jure or de facto) are the formal constituents of the dissolved structure.

"Dissolution (politics)" and the "Two-State Solution" are directly related in Cyprus island, too.

(2) https://icahd.org/2019/08/21/the-difficult-passage-from-a-two-state-solution-to-decolonisation-in-palestine-israel/
"...Perhaps, LIKE CZECHOSLOVAKIA, a TWO-STATE SOLUTION will emerge from the one state, the opposite of what has been predicted..."

(3) "CYPRUS could split LIKE CZECHOSLOVAKIA, Turkish Cypriots say" (The Guardian; 24.01.2010)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/24/cyprus-reunification-talks

"CYPRUS could become ANOTHER CZECHOSLOVAKIA, splitting in to TWO SEPARATE STATES unless Britain and its international partners move to prevent the collapse of crucial reunification talks, officials in Turkish northern Cyprus have warned."

(4) https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/two-states-for-two-peoples-solution-or-illusion/
"...A genuine "bi-national confederal" state - by giving expression to the collective identities - could in important respects be closer to a TWO-STATE MODEL than to a unitary "secular democratic" state, but its supporters would need to show why it will be more robust than, say, Belgium and Canada, the two bi-national examples often cited in favourable comparison but which are both fragile entities, periodically in danger of DISSOLVING INTO THEIR NATIONAL CONSTITUENT PARTS. The fate of the multinational constructs of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and CZECHOSLOVAKIA are not encouraging in this respect either..."

(5) The Long Goodbye:
"...A useful model could be the DISSOLUTION OF CZECHOSLOVAKIA in 1993 into the Czech Republic and Slovakia..." (Fabian Society; 31.01.2023)
https://fabians.org.uk/the-long-goodbye/

(6) The TWO-STATE SOLUTION is not dead: (Arabnews; 11.05.2013)
https://www.arabnews.com/node/451182/%7B%7B
"...Other peoples have found it impossible to live together in one state. Take the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia. Serbia. CZECHOSLOVAKIA. CYPRUS. Sudan. The Scots want to secede from the United Kingdom. So do the Basques and the Catalans from Spain. The French in Canada and the Flemish in Belgium are uneasy. As far as I know, nowhere in the entire world have two different peoples agreed to form a joint state for decades. No, the TWO-STATE SOLUTION is not dead. It cannot die, because it is the only solution there is. Despair may be convenient and tempting. But despair is no solution at all..."

(7) A useful template could be the DISSOLUTION OF CZECHOSLOVAKIA in 1993 into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/17/support-for-an-israel-palestine-confederation-is-gaining-ground

(8) Israel/Palestine: Is There A Case for Bi-nationalism?
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/israelpalestine-is-there-a-case-for-bi-nationalism
"...Given that many bi- and multinational states have failed to accommodate distinct national groups under far more auspicious circumstances (as illustrated in the DISSOLUTION OF CZECHOSLOVAKIA and the bloody collapse of the Yugoslav federation)..." 212.174.38.3 (talk) 07:50, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply