Talk:Tigray People's Liberation Front

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

== TPLF designation as a Terrorist organisation per GTD/START database == It's not clear how TPLF may qualify as a terrorist org, but some argue the recent attack on the national defense force of Ethiopia may be viewed as an act of terrorism and or treason. Found reference in GTD(Global Terrorism Database)/START database on the TPLF organisation's terrorist activities. Per wikipedia guidelines, the source linked to the [1] Lists out the terrorist activities of the TPLF since it's formation as an organisation.Authorityofwiki (talk) 21:55, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

GTD really doesn't qualify as WP:RS. It gathers bits of information indiscriminately. As per the listing, all but one of the listed incidents are from 1990 and earlier (when TPLF was an armed resistance movement against the Derg regime). There is an incident from 2016 listed, which is clearly a sloppy copy-paste from internet source where opponents have used the term 'TPLF' as an euphemism for the regime as a whole. --Soman (talk) 22:29, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

The events pre 1990 are not necessarily disqualified just because the TPLF was an "armed resistance movement" and according to GTD/START's criteria, those acts are deemed as terrorist attacks. START/GTD is a center of excellence by US Homeland Security Dept. so i think GTD qualifies as a WP:RS. Authorityofwiki (talk) 22:45, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

If you read the link on the 2016 event at the GTD website, it is clear that the person writing it has no idea of what TPLF is. It cannot qualify as WP:RS, and the mention only says that 'TPLF' (euphemism for state forces) was believed to have been involved. --Soman (talk) 22:58, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Adding this link to a book on TPLF "guerrilla activities" which by the definition of GTD qualifies as terrorism: [2] Now I agree that the TPLF was an "armed resistance movement" against the Dergue however, some of the attacks they did do qualify as "terrorism" per GTD's criterion. Hence why I wrote the article statement as "according to GTD,"...now I was making changes to the sentence "designated as a terrorist organisation" to "an organisation that commits terrorist attacks". Even the 2016 incident should be used to refer to the type of actions this organisation takes to achieve its "political objectives". Authorityofwiki (talk) 23:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

see WP:TERRORIST --Soman (talk) 12:05, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Already noted that GTD which is supported by the US Homeland Security is a Reliable Source. There is no weasel word here, clearly the Source states that "terrorist activity" is defined prior to making the "designation" of said activity. If we are to go with what you are saying then technically every article on Wikipedia about Al Qaeda or ISIS should remove the words "terrorist" or "terrorism" etc because its a "weasel word" according to your interpretation. Your disagreement with Global Terrorism Database does not disqualify it as a source.Authorityofwiki (talk) 00:19, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 21 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 21:09, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

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Tigrayan People's Liberation Front → Tigray People's Liberation Front – The official name of the organization is Tigray People's Liberation Front‎ not Tigrayan People's Liberation Front‎. Turtlewong (talk) 18:15, 21 July 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 08:28, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:48, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

The TPLF stands for Tigray People's Liberation Front‎ not the Tigrayan People's Liberation Front. The native name of the organization is Tigrinya: ሕዝባዊ ወያነ ሐርነት ትግራይ (Həzbayawi Wäyyanä Harənnät Təgray) with the direct translation being "Popular Struggle for the Freedom of Tigray" and the official spelling used by the party, the Ethiopian government, academics, etc. is Tigray People's Liberation Front‎. --Turtlewong (talk) 22:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

• Support, going through a google books search, it shows that "Tigray People's Liberation Front" is used by quality sources (i.e. books wholly dedicated to TPLF/Ethiopia, such as https://books.google.com/books?id=S9LX8UpI97MC ) and the TPLF itself in official documents ( https://books.google.com/books?id=S9LX8UpI97MC ).--Soman (talk) 08:52, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
• Support as per the convincing arguments presented by Turtlewong. --Varavour (talk) 23:44, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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Khartuom?

Why does the article contain the spelling "Khartuom"? Is it a typo? Or an alternative name that for some reason is preferable in that section? Syced (talk) 02:57, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Inconsistency on terrorism in the article

The first sentence of the article claims that the group is a terrorist organization before it is a political party. But the last section is only about "suspected links" to terrorism, and mentions the lack of a consensus within even the United States. --86.50.115.231 (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Tigray People's Liberation Front

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Tigray People's Liberation Front's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "nyt20210122":

• From Tigray War: The New York Times, 22 January 2021: On ‘Rooftop of Africa,’ Ethiopia’s Troops Hunt Fugitive Former Rulers
• From Tigray Defence Forces: Marks, Simon (22 January 2021). "On 'Rooftop of Africa,' Ethiopia's Troops Hunt Fugitive Former Rulers". The New York Times. Retrieved 3 May 2021. And the top military commanders of the T.P.L.F. remain at large. Two Western officials and one with the T.P.L.F., who were not authorized to speak publicly, identified Lt. Gen. Tsadkan Gebretensae, a former head of the Ethiopian military, as a senior rebel leader. General Tsadkan led Ethiopia into combat against Eritrea during the two countries' brutal border war between 1998 and 2000. In recent years, after retiring from the army, he ran a small brewery. Now 66, he is back in the fight with the newly formed Tigray Defence Forces, battling the Ethiopian army he once commanded.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

derogatory nature

this article wishes to call them "ethnic nationalist". but is that not an insult? aren't all ethiopian belonging to some ethnic group or in certain ethnic alliances? how is an ethnic group nationalist? thank you 2601:588:8181:C80:BDB0:6EBE:E2AF:1637 (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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