Talk:Thin Ice (Doctor Who episode)

Again, are these continuity elements?

I know the current continuity items are all sourced, that's fine, but I would beg the question if they are truly continuity or more like "This episode has (broad theme) X; the Doctor has talked about theme X in these episodes..." which feels less like continuity than just common themes. Real, of those from Den of Geek, the only one that screams as continuity is Doctor Disco, and perhaps taking River to a Frost Fair in the past; the others are just common themes but not direct episode references. --MASEM (t) 19:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree, some of them are absolutely tendentious. Just because someone out there on a website calling attention to its own geekiness is speculating that this that and the other thing are "easter eggs" does not mean they really are, or that they're intended to be such. That's what I hate about these "you may have missed" lists which act like they are based on production notes or something. Something like a collection of sonic screwdrivers needs no argument. But I swear to god, the names of the three kids (if you respell them)? The fact it's not a parallel world? How about we mention every time the Doctor's been to the Moon next time he goes, or doesn't go? This is up there with dangling out of the TARDIS (oh, someone's dangled out of the TARDIS before, Conitunity!). I suggest the following are removed as trainspotting:

• The Doctor assures Bill they have not travelled to a parallel world. The Doctor has visited alternate Earths before, such as the one seen in the Third Doctor serial Inferno and "Pete's World", first visited by the Tenth Doctor and Rose Tyler in "Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel".[1][2]
• Three of the street children bear the same name as prior companions of the Doctor: Perry (for Peri Brown), Harry (after Harry Sullivan), and Dot (either for Dorothy, aka Ace, or Dorothea, aka Dodo Chaplet).
• The butterly effect thing is also unpointed. It's not even important enough to be in the plot, never mind anything else. It's just not referring to anything specific. You don't need to know this sort of question's been asked before to understand why it's happening. Unlike pictures of the Doctor's wife and granddaughter, e.g. I had to laugh to myself just now thinking, thank God it didn't say: "This question has been asked by a black female companion before..." We'd have made the London tabloids.

This one might just barely qualify as a production footnote--it's certainly not contintuity:

• The episode title Thin Ice had also been proposed for the 27th season of Doctor Who's original run; it would have been the final story for Sophie Aldred as Ace during Sylvester McCoy's tenure as the Seventh Doctor, and would have seen the return of the Ice Warriors. However, the show was ... (in other words it has sweet f.a. to do with this episode, and might just be a f---ing coincidence!) (Pardon my F...rench, I've moved it to Production for now.

I don't have a problem with how this one starts, but the stuff about novels and audiobooks is not necessary.

• The Doctor mentions that he has attended Frost Fairs before. In "A Good Man Goes to War", River Song says that the Eleventh Doctor took her to the 1814 Fair for her birthday, where they were serenaded by Stevie Wonder.[1] The Twelfth Doctor also took Clara Oswald to the 1814 Fair in the Doctor Who novel Silhouette (2014), and other incarnations have visited past Fairs in various novels and audiobooks.[2]

ZarhanFastfire (talk) 03:18, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and done some weeding. Another annoying thing is, whoever's adding these things is doing so without bothering to introduce the bit from the episode they're talking about. If you're going to bring it up, at least say that much. t's not always there in the plot. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 04:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

I've removed the one about humanity always forgetting about previous invasions and odd events. I hesitated last time, but since we seem to be reaching critical mass (next talk page) towards needing a broader forum, I've had time to let this one sink in and finally decided this isn't contintuity either--it's a recurring theme. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 02:48, 10 May 2017 (UTC)