Talk:The Odyssey of Flight 33

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well, at least it wasn't the completed Shea Stadium that they saw. (It broke ground in October 1961 and opened in 1964.) 204.52.215.14 (talk) 17:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC) ;-)

I'm not sure why the cockpit had a 5 man crew. This episode was made a little before my time though. Flight engineers and inertial navigation were standard for transoceanic flight when I was a kid. Before inertial navigation there was a navigator onboard so that explains 4 of the crew. A 6 hour flight from Heathrow to Idlewild doesn't seem long enough to have required a relief pilot. Maybe the union rules were different then carrying over from the recent transition away from transoceanic propeller flight. Skywayman (talk) 09:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe a 3 man cockpit was standard on the 707 from the start. Even on international flights. Over the years, I have seen indications that the Constellations used a 5 man crew on transoceanic flights. I think that is the crewing seen in the episode. Captain, FO, FE, Navigator and Radio Operator. The additional crew members were likely added to add drama and dialog. If you notice, the Radio Operator and Navigator, have no instrument panel. The Radio Operator is sitting on a jump seat, normally used for check airmen, FAA officials, or deadheading crew members. The Navigator is seated in an office chair, that was obviously inserted in the cockpit for the episode. Rod Serling's brother Robert, was an airline pilot and aviation writer, with access to airplanes for use in the series. He is listed as "technical advisor" in the closing credits of the episode. My guess is they used a 707, static, on the ground, for the cockpit scenes. They then put the 5 actors and office chair in the cockpit, and gave the illusion of a 5 man crew. Eelb53 (talk) 03:53, 18 August 2012 (UTC)eelb53

I seem to recall, when I was a wee lad of five years old, seeing three or four men in the cockpit of a Pan-Am 707 flying From Miami to Trinidad and Tobago. In fact, I think it was three, with a ton of switches everywhere!!! A stew may have been in there as well, but I kept those wings FOREVER!!!!

According to the Twilight Zone Companion, Bob Serling helped write the cockpit dialog so it would be as realistic as possible (for the time, of course). The show got letters from pilots praising the accuracy. CaliforniaDave (talk) 01:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Did something get taken out of the article?

I recall seeing remarks about flaws in this episode, including that the land shapes would have been different if this were actually the time that the Brontosaurus species lived. (As for the land shapes, the crew notices that something is wrong when they recognize Manhattan and the surrounding area but without the buildings.)

Also, I think I myself put in a remark earlier about the World's Fair, because only "World's Fair" is mentioned in the episode and we find out it is the 1939 World's Fair. My remark was that this episode was made before the World's Fair of 1964-1965.

Why can't I find that stuff in the current article about this Twilight Zone episode? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 18:30, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree that the land form part would be useful. I noticed that flaw in the episode, too, and came here looking to see if it was covered. StuRat (talk) 21:07, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

who is the person being referred to?

Notice this sentence:

"She tells fellow stew Paula (Nancy Rennick) about the trouble, who then struggles to fight back panic."

Since I don't have the episode in front of me, could someone clarify the person "who" is supposed to refer to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 18:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

That section has been removed from the article with several other items, apparently due to confusing writing. Cabin crew lead stew Janie tells subordinate Paula there is trouble, and to keep a happy face, at which Paula fails miserably. If you share bad news, you have also say something hopeful, or at least a give a suggestion on how to keep passengers calm. All of which of course tends to go by the wayside when passengers can see dinosaurs out the window.

Jed Jed Gould

In case there is any confusion, "stew" = stewardess. StuRat (talk) 21:11, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

"Bring on the sexy stews baby... Yeah!!!" Austin Powers

Square Windows: ... were never on 707 jets! Just sayin'.