Talk:The Guide

Railway Raju (nickname) is a disarmingly corrupt tour guide who is famous among tourists. He falls in love with a beautiful dancer, Rosie, the wife of archaeologist Marco. They have come to Malgudi, the fictional town in South India, as tourists. Marco does not approve of Rosie's passion for dancing. Rosie, encouraged by Raju, decides to follow her dreams and start a dancing career. In the process they become close to each other. On learning of their relationship, Marco leaves Rosie in Malgudi and goes back to Madras alone. Rosie turns up at the home of Raju and they start living together. But Raju's mother does not approve of their relationship, and leaves them. Raju becomes Rosie's stage manager and soon, with the help of Raju's marketing tactics, Rosie becomes a successful dancer. Raju, however, develops an inflated sense of self-importance and tries to control her life and he wants to build as much wealth as possible. Raju gets involved in a case of forgery of Rosie's signature and gets a two-year sentence despite Rosie's best efforts to save him. After completing the sentence, Raju passes through a village, Mangal where he is mistaken for a sadhu (a spiritual guide). Since he does not want to return in disgrace to Malgudi, he decides to stay in an abandoned temple, close to the village. There he plays the role of a Sadhu to perfection delivering sermons and discourses to the villagers and solving their day to day problems and disputes. Soon there is a famine in the village and villagers somehow get the idea that Raju will keep a fast in order to make it rain. Raju confesses the entire truth about his past to Velan, who had first discovered Raju in the temple and had developed a complete faith in him like the rest of the villagers. The confession does not make a difference to Velan and Raju decides to go on with the fast. With media publicizing his fast, a huge crowd gathers (much to Raju's resentment) to watch him fast. In the morning of the eleventh day of fasting, he goes to the riverside as part of his daily ritual. He feels that the rain is falling in the hills in the distance and he sags down in water. The ending of the novel leaves it to the reader to guess whether Raju died, and whether it rained.

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The last paragraph is all about the movie based on this novel, and should be moved into a separate article discussing the movie. --Norwaystudent 09:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Not sure I agree at present. There is just not enough here to justify such an article. This is a reference to the adaptation to film. It doesn't yet amount to an article, or really even an article stub. Unless of course someone has the knowledge, information and commitment to write it up. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The Guide being one of the most acclaimed movie of Hindi Cinema, I think it deserves a separate article page. Nadesai 22:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

False information that needs correction

The Guide Novel written by R.K Narayan has nothing to do with The HitchHikars Guide to Galaxy Novel. The Former was publish in 1958 and later was publish in 1979 and The Story has nothing in common expect the word "Guide"—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.30.86 (talk) 19:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 20:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Character sections

Why does Rosie have a section and not Raju? If we're going to give Rosie her own section, at least Raju should get his own section & analysis too. Cronus Zephyr (talk) 07:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Issue with analysis

The whole analysis of the ending is based on the last line having the word "saged" in it. This, however, is a typo. The correct word is "sagged" which makes the analysis not make any sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.44.195 (talk) 08:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 20 July 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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The Guide → The Guide (novel) – There are 43 entries listed upon the Guide (disambiguation) page. Although the dab page already has Guide as its WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, it would seem more intuitive for The Guide to function as a redirect to Guide (disambiguation) rather than as the main header of the article delineating Narayan's novel which does not appear to hold, in the English-speaking world, a Siddhartha (novel)-like status of an exalted or iconic literary work. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose Directing readers who choose to search "The Guide" to a page almost entirely of articles that could not reasonably be titled "The Guide" seems the opposite of helpful. Let's remember, the purpose of disambiguation pages are to help readers navigate, not make it more complicated.

So the question instead is whether there is a primary topic of pages that could lay a claim to being titled The Guide. Searching is certainly difficult, since most uses of "the guide" are just as part of general sentences and not referring to specific subjects by that name. But looking at page views for this vs the other topics named The Guide (even if we stretch to include things like the newspaper that had a since-changed section with that title), this one seems to be the primary, not to mention the fact that it won the most important literary award in one of the world's most populous countries from one of it's most successful authors.

I would note that a topic does not need to reach some "exalted or iconic" status to be the primary topic -- it is about notability in comparison to other subjects of the same name. That you may not consider a book winning one of India's most important literary awards iconic enough here is meaningless. We could have a topic be the primary with only a tenth of the "exalted" status of a famous novel if every other topic is a hundredth.--Yaksar (let's chat) 23:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per above comment and WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. This article gets more than double the pageviews of Guide and more than 10x the pageviews of The Guide (film). Station1 (talk) 18:17, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. No clear primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:45, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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