Talk:The American Baking Competition

Runner-Ups

Commenters at this article's feedback page want to know if the second and third place winners recieved a prize, and if so, what the amount of money was. Can someone who watched the episode provide this information? Nick1372 (talk) 16:04, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

The Great Holiday Baking Show

I have no idea why this information gets removed. Both are basically another iteration of the same show, which is the The Great British Bake Off. Hzh (talk) 13:14, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Your statement is factually inaccurate, per your own source. CBS bought the rights to GBBO, which it unsuccessfully remade as this US-based show in 2013. In 2015, ABC and GBBO's production company adapted GBBO as a four-week holiday-themed show, filmed on the GBBO set in the UK. There is no connection between the two US programs. To say the ABC adaptation is a remake of the CBS version of the show is factually inaccurate, and not supported by the cited source. Thus, it was removed.

Just a reminder that once your content is reverted, the burden is on you to gain consensus to restore it, not to discuss via edit summary and attempt to force it back it. You know this. Either gain consensus for the edit as it stands, or use this discussion to proposed alternative content that is accurate and verifiable. As it stands, you're edit is neither. --Drmargi (talk) 13:30, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

You are now at 5 reverts. Please propose your changes here rather than attempting to force your edit in. --Drmargi (talk) 13:40, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

5 Reverts? I have no idea what you are talking about. You actually reverted BEFORE you discussed it, so you the one who is guilty of not discussing before revert. You are basically doing what you did with the Mr Robot article, using a minor point to revert a much larger edit. My edit was made to address the point made, i.e. changing the wording. A helpful editor would have just adjusted the wording, but you chose to revert it instead. Hzh (talk) 13:57, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Do you have anything constructive to add to improve this article? You clearly a being guided by a grudge rather than the best interest of the article. You were asked to restore the article to WP:STATUSQUO, which you refuse to abide by, but are still attempting to force a series of edits despite there being an open discussion. I had no burden to gain consensus to revert. The burden for consensus is on you. --Drmargi (talk) 14:03, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

You simply said that the wording is wrong, and I adjusted the wording. I have no grudge whatever, simply observing the same behaviour that I have seen before - you chose to revert instead of contributing in a positive way in discussion even after being requested to do so. It is easy to adjust wording if you have a problem with the wording. That you should see mentioning two shows being essentially the same as not being constructive is puzzling. Hzh (talk) 14:17, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

When you're prepared to discuss content, as is the function of the talk page, I'm happy to discuss it. Please refrain from any further personal attacks on me in an attempt to divert attention away from the issue at hand. --Drmargi (talk) 14:22, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure accusing someone having a "grudge" is refraining from personal attacks, but there you go. Hzh (talk) 14:28, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Returning to what matters, the edit as it originally stood was factually incorrect. The ABC production was not a remake of this show. It was an adaptation of the British original with a holiday theme. It's also tenuously connected to this show at best, and really doesn't belong in the article per WP:TRIVIA. However, given the editor's need to have his way and willingness to edit war to force an edit, and his lack of willingness to discuss the edit (preferring instead to analyze my motives and grind old axes), I've tried to make it work in the article. I've moved it from the lede, since it's not about this show, and added it to production, with some revision that at least makes comparisons between the two shows. It's not particularly notable, but at least it fits now. --Drmargi (talk) 20:22, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Great American Baking SHOW (2016)

Assume that a new page is coming for the newest variant, Great American Baking Show (2016). It premiered on Dec 1 on ABC, with Mary Berry again, joined by Johnny Iuzzini as co-judge, and Nia Vardalos and Ian Gomez as hosts. It has a similar format, with a signature bake (bake a favorite recipe), technical bake, (all bake the same thing using ingredients provided and a scant recipe), and showstopper bake -- several variations (color, flavor, filling, etc.) blended artistically and with wow. Winners and losers are judged by overall success in the three bakes.

Episode one and two showed the premier week, with week one being cakes and week two cookies. In episode two, a contestant left the show midway along for a family emergency; came here seeking an update on that family's condition.

GeeBee60 (talk) 07:04, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Looks like one is needed given the show is now in its second season. It was supposed to have been canceled, but obviously ABC changed its mind! --Drmargi (talk) 07:36, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, clearly needed is a WP cover article about American based baking contests with Mary Berry (not found in her WP biography). One would expect full entries for each series show, but presently they do not exist. So in the meantime there ought to be, at least in the introductory paragraph, an acknowledgement of the relationships. It perplexes me how it is that every effort made by several reasonable people to insert language that links these various related shows is canceled / reverted. After all, there are only differences in the technical production of these shows and who broadcasts them -- all of these American Baking contests follow an almost identical format, use remarkably similar names, bake in almost identical baking tents, and are (in part) hosted by the same British baking judge, Mary Berry.

GeeBee60 (talk) 08:57, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

@GeeBee60: You'd find that it's only Drmargi who has an issue with it, no one else has any problem with it. Hzh (talk) 12:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

They're different shows on different networks. You're welcome to start an article about the ABC show under its two titles, but this program is not related to my the ABC show beyond its common origin, and discussion here would be inappropriate. --Drmargi (talk) 14:03, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Having a separate article is not that germaine to the discussion, since we are only mentioning the relationship between the two rather than introducing content from that other show. There are enough editors who hold a different opinion, and I guess if you insist we can again start another RfC. Hzh (talk) 15:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm creating a stub for The Great American Baking Show. I agree they're separate series, but there needs to be a reference in this article to the new series. -- Zanimum (talk)