Talk:Taylor Swift albums discography/Archive 2

Archive 1 Archive 2

The Moment I Knew

The Moment I Knew was released as a promotional single by Taylor and should be added source: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-moment-i-knew-single/id587493839 184.58.0.27 (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

No evidence.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 01:22, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Evidence is posted. 184.58.0.27 (talk) 05:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't see where iTunes calls it a "promo single", do you?  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 05:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

It says single but the cover is of the album making it a promo. 184.58.0.27 (talk) 05:26, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

That doesn't provide any evidence what-so-ever. The song wasn't available on iTunes in the US previously, so they just released it as a stand-alone song (instead of having to delete Red from iTunes and re-upload it, which would be what they would have to do).  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 05:35, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

RED

Red has much less details in the introduction part. I believe that more details must be added now. also the sales of red have increased so they must be changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinav0927 (talkcontribs) 09:08, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

US Pop Charts Inclusion to the Singles Chart Table ?

Since she had a lot of pop singles especially in her latest album Red, i think US Pop Charts should also be inclueded to the singles chart table. She also cares a lot about what her songs doing on the pop charts; e.g. : https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/306509874433519617 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.110.101.38 (talk) 20:16, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

It's time to remove the US Country's peaks.

US Country's peaks are not appropriate for her now. We should add other country's peaks and certifications. Rihanna discography also removed the R&B/Hip-Hop's peaks. U990467 (talk) 11:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Why? That is ridiculous. The country format launched her career. This is whitewashing of her career's history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drkrleitch (talkcontribs) 18:59, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

It is never time to remove historic chart entries, for Taylor Swift, for Rihanna, or for anyone else. If there was ever even one chart entry, no historic record is correct without reporting it. Some artist sometime may "wish" that people would "forget" their earlier achievements, but I can't imagine Swift or Rihanna feel this way. And even if they did, Wikipedia is simply a place for knowledge of facts, and the facts should be thee regardless of anyone's personal feelings about them. Swift's Country successes and Rihanna's R&B successes are exactly where their respective careers began -- and they each have SIGNIFICANT amounts of success in those areas, which SHOULD be reported. It is simply wrong not to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.59.105 (talk) 00:05, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2014

The country charts should not be removed from her discography. 76.92.72.205 (talk) 04:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

  Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Sam Sing! 07:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree with this notion that the country charts should not be removed from her discography. I just came here now to look at a peak for one of her country hits (a song that didn't really cross over to the pop chart) and now it's gone. I could understand removing her post-country era songs (like "Shake It Off") from the country charts category, but the ones before that should remain. 16:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


Don't worry, I put the country chart peaks back. Someone had erroneously deleted them. Jeremyeyork (talk) 02:09, 5 October 2014 (UTC)


Is someone going to put the country chart peaks back? They aren't there. I always found them very useful. Taylor Swift has had a lot of major country hit singles, including multiple #1s. It's odd to not have them here and makes the page much less useful as a record of her chart performance. Ww adh77 (talk) 00:31, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Once again, Country peaks are removed in albums. Why? She had a bunch of #1's -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 17:11, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

I've fixed the mistake again and added her Adult Contemporary peaks Jeremyeyork (talk) 05:11, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

The next time her country peaks are removed will be reported as vandalism. Jeremyeyork (talk) 05:16, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

@Jeremyeyork: I have had to revert your edit because now there are more than 10 charts which is not allowed per DISCOGS. Please align on which 10 charts you want to keep and then do the edit. Cheers. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 09:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
ETA, I would say remove Ireland being a minor market and add the country charts. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 09:32, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean only ten? Jeremyeyork (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Only 10 chart listings. What is there not to understand? —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 04:50, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
Why can there be only ten? Is there anywhere that says there can be only ten? -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 17:43, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
WP:DISCOGSTYLE "A limit of approximately 10 separate charts is suggested, using any combination of country, component, or competing charts." —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 17:59, 8 November 2014 (UTC)


Two keywords "APPROXIMATELY" and "SUGGESTED" does not mean it CAN'T or SHOULDN'T be more than 10. Especially for an artist who has had such stellar success. Wikipedia becomes a useless tool if people come to it for information and find relevant information removed. Regardless of Swift's current Pop success, the fact that she had the Country chart success at all makes it relevant. The article becomes incorrect if it does not reflect this. I would agree that IRE is less important than Country if a distinction has to be made, but I still content that "approximately" and "suggested" actually supports the argument than more than 10 is acceptable if an artist has had the corresponding success. In any case, please put back all the Country chart positions and lock them in, as no record of Swift's accomplishments is correct without it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.59.105 (talk) 22:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2014

Enter 45 for Blank Space under the Japan Hot 100 chart Jaxswim (talk) 00:24, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a source for that? -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 00:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2014

Please add the world sales for 1989 from the albums section to 4 Million. http://www.brits.co.uk/news/taylor-swift-ed-sheeran-and-sam-smith-to-perform-at-brits-2015 Thewhiteboy114 (talk) 04:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, you got it. Will change to 4 million. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 04:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Reverted it. This is not hard sales of the album but sales + TEA. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 07:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Removing of Bubbling from Other Charted Songs

Bubbling Under Hot should be removed and replaced with notes on the Hot 100. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 22:27, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, they should be removed and replaced with Hot 100, with a note leading to the Bubbling chart placement. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 03:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, @IndianBio:, but I don't know how to do it. Can you or someone else? -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 03:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
I think it's unnecessary. If you want to do so, you need to put the same source in each note (you didn't do that). These notes also make the table look so messy. And it's INCONVENIENT to look up those peak positions. —U990467 (talk) 13:22, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
OK, I didn't, that's why I said I don't really know how to fully add notes. But, if a song charts on the Hot 100, you have to put in notes instead of a bubbling because they are the same chart. I know because I was blocked when I said bubbling should be there on Meghan Trainor. But for someone like Drake Bell who only has a bubbling song, he can have a bub column. Swift cannot because she has hot 100 songs. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 05:47, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Joseph is correct. Bubblingech under does not need to be a separate chart and its technically wrong to do so. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 06:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2014

Swift was featured on K.K.Yo's 2014 song K.K..

It charted to number 4 in UK, number 6 in US, number 10 in AUS, number 1 in JT and number12 in NZ.

According to mediatraffic.de (http://www.mediatraffic.de/year-end-albums.htm) 1989 has sold atleast 4.619.000 copies. 92.16.4.43 (talk) 18:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Link is not a RS. From what I can tell, it's some sort of ridiculous lyric site in which anonymous contributors can say what they think a particular line in a rap song means. From the site's own description, users "can add any text you want to Genius". From the diverse and highly unbelievable list of collaborators listed for "K.K.Yo", including Dolly Parton, Mackelmore, and Eminem, I think the contributors have been doing just that. Don't believe this artist or this song even exists, much less charted anywhere near what you claim. Cannolis (talk) 20:18, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Please put back the US Country peaks

I don't know what else to say, they belong there and it's simply wrong to remove them! I'm a paying user, and that's the information I need to see when I look there. And it used to be there now it's not! Put it back!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.59.105 (talk) 09:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree that chart played a major role in her career Finaltwo (talk) 06:32, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Put back the Country singles peaks please! 70.215.72.32 (talk) 21:49, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Using Headlineplanet.com which mirrors Mediatraffic

I would like to notify ongoing issue at Taylor Swift discography wherein editors/fanboys are continuously adding Headlineplanet.com as source for claiming US as well as WW sales. Check the source I listed. Although not mentioned it clearly mirrors Mediatrafic, check out their album list which shows 1989 selling 120,000 units same as what headlineplanet reported, as well as the home page, which mirrors the same content, " Taylor Swift's '1989' climbs back at no.2 with another 120,000 sales. After only 14 weeks the album breaks through the 6 million border with a total of 6,040,000 sales". This should be stopped and I reverted twice pointing them out to WP:BADCHARTS and the mirroring of Mediatraffic, but was reverted back. I will not revert further since it would result in 3RR, so asking the other users to revert back the unreliable source. Mediatraffic is listed under WP:BADCHARTS as such and any addition of those is detrimental to a featured list as such. Fanboys/Editors continuing usage of Headlineplanet include Joseph Prasad, as well as Josephlarinlula. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 10:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

None of what you just stated is factual. You seem to be confusing Mediabase & Mediatraffic. Headlineplanet.com receives their information from HitsDailyDouble.com which pays for and collects all of it's information directly from Mediabase.com, All Access, VEVO, Shazam, iTunes etc. They put together a Album Building Sales charts, Streaming + Physical Sales, Radio Airplay, Video Views and upcoming release sales charts. All of this information is sourced the same way as Billboard and their finals numbers match every time. However regardless of all this the fact of the matter is Headline Planet is not on the WP:BADCHARTS list, they do not obtain any of their information from any sources that are on those lists including Mediatraffic.de and none of the sources I listed are included on that list or source their information from that list pure and simple. And you're correct in the fact they made a big mistake stating 1989 sold 6 million copies worldwide in only 14 weeks because in actuality she sold 2.6 million more than that. She sold 8.6 Million Worldwide which is why she is the 2014 Global Artist of The Year! --Rikripley (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Calling someone a fanboy makes it seem like a personal attack, but yeah, pretty much what Rikripley said. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 06:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

1989 iTunes Singles

I don't think just cause iTunes is selling it as a single, it should count as one. I haven't seen a source besides that iTunes calls it one. I thought it had to be released to radio. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 00:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Music Industry: Template attached to Musicians Discography Pages: Single (Music) In music, a single or record single is a type of release, typically a song recording of fewer tracks than an LP record or an album. This can be released for sale to the public in a variety of different formats. In most cases, the single is a song that is released separately from an album, but it usually appears on an album. Often, these are the most popular songs from albums that are released separately for promotional uses such as digital download or commercial radio airplay, and in other cases a recording released as a single does not appear on an album.
The sales of singles are recorded in record charts in most countries in a Top 40 format. These charts are often published in magazines and numerous television shows and radio programs count down the list. In order to be eligible for inclusion in the charts the single must meet the requirements set by the charting company, usually governing the number of songs and the total playing time of the single.
Dictionary Definition:
  • a CD that has only one song on it, not a number of songs, or a song which is sold in this way.
  • a gramophone record, CD, cassette or digital download with a short recording, usually of pop music, on it
Music Industry Definition: by wiseGEEK
A music single is a song which is released as a standalone item. Typically, singles are linked to or taken from an album, and they are used to promote the album and the artist. Singles have been a part of music distribution since the early days of recording, with a popularity which has waxed and waned. Thanks to the increasing tendency to distribute music digitally with downloads, allowing users to choose which songs they download, the music single has experienced a decline in popularity.
In a classic example of a music single, a song is selected from an album and packaged on its own for distribution to radio stations, with the hope that the song will get a great deal of air play, thereby encouraging people to buy the album. The single will also be distributed to music stores, sometimes in advance of the album as a promotion. Music singles are also targeted at buyers without a big budget, so that those buyers can pick up the single even if they cannot afford the album, increasing overall sales for the record company.
Many singles are packaged with several other songs. These songs are touted as a bonus not available on the album, and they may include remixes of the single song, covers, or entirely new songs. A typical single album can have between one and five songs. The music single will usually be significantly less expensive than buying the whole album, although some people like to purchase both.
In some cases, a music single may become a hit single, often becoming associated with an artist or band as a signature song. This is often because radio stations play the single over and over, lacking access to the full album, and consumers purchase the single in high volumes if it is available before the album comes out. In order to be considered a true “hit single,” a single must typically make it into the charts used to track music sales.
CDs and Digital Downloads are the most common medium for singles, as cassette tapes are not in common use. Some musicians also release singles on records, a trend which is more common in musical subcultures such as the hip hop and electronica communities. Buying a single in record format can be more costly, due to the increased expense involved in pressing and processing records, but some people prefer the sound quality and social cachet of records to CDs. --Rikripley (talk) 02:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Then, shouldn't "Welcome to New York" and "Out of the Woods" count as singles, not promotional, since they were both released in the same way as "Wonderland", "You are In Love", and "New romantics"? -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 00:16, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Consistency within promotional singles

Not to beat a dead horse, but what exactly defines a "promotional single" in the context of this article? At one point "If This Was a Movie" and "Superman" were listed as promotional singles for Speak Now, but they have since been moved to "Other charted songs". However, the manner in which they were released (as independent digital 'singles' on iTunes) is identical to the release of "Wonderland", "You Are in Love", and "New Romantics". So I'm just wondering why the former two were deemed not promotional singles but the latter three are. For the sake of consistency, I feel all five of these songs should be placed in the same table, whichever people feel is the more appropriate one. I lean towards moving ITWaM and Superman back into Promotional singles. Thoughts?

For reference:

  • "iTunes — Music — If This Was a Movie — Single by Taylor Swift". Itunes.apple.com. November 8, 2011. Retrieved November 16, 2011.
  • "iTunes — Music — Superman — Single by Taylor Swift". Itunes.apple.com. November 8, 2011. Retrieved November 16, 2011.
  • "iTunes — Music — Wonderland — Single by Taylor Swift". Itunes.apple.com. February 17, 2015. Retrieved 14 March 2015.
  • "iTunes — Music — You Are In Love — Single by Taylor Swift". Itunes.apple.com. February 24, 2015. Retrieved 14 March 2015.
  • "iTunes — Music — New Romantics — Single by Taylor Swift". Itunes.apple.com. March 3, 2015. Retrieved 14 March 2015.
I agree with you, Songsteel. I don't know when they were removed, that was an incorrect edit. It was released in the same fashion, granted I was the one who added the 1989 specials to the promo singles. It may have been before I started when they were removed, as I've only been on Wikipedia for about 11 months, but I'm all for adding those back. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 06:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on having your list featured as the featured list recently. Thank you to all the hard work of the contributors and editors to this article. You deserve recognition, appreciation, and a lot of applause. I think your list is going to get a lot of views.

  Bfpage |leave a message  11:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Chart update

"Style" is now #57 in Japan, on the Japan Hot 100, looking at the source in the Japan singles section. -- 104.161.12.181 (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Bad Blood

Please note that the single "Bad Blood" is a remix and it features Kendrick Lamar. -- Deadpool100 (talk) 03:23, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

It hasn't charted yet with Kendrick Lamar's name Cornerstonepicker (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Please everyone both versions of Bad Blood with chart as a single entry. Sales from both the remix and album versions will be merged and chart together. The album version which is also selling on ITunes will not chart on its own. So don't change anything because they are two different versions. Finaltwo (talk) 14:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

About promotional singles

If you placed "Wonderland", "You Are in Love" and "New Romantics" in the Promotional singles section, then "If This Was a Movie", "Superman" and "The Moment I Knew" (and "Back to December (Acoustic Version)", "Haunted (Acoustic Version)" and "Mine" (Pop Mix)" too?) also had to be in this section too. We all khow they were released on the US iTunes (with "The Moment I Knew" had been deleted) as singles. NXL1997 (talk) 05:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

And I have just known "State of Grace (Acoustic Version)", "Girl At Home" and "Come Back… Be Here" had been released:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-moment-i-knew-single/id979778155

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/come-back...-be-here-single/id979778659

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/girl-at-home-single/id979778223

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/state-grace-acoustic-version/id979778278

NXL1997 (talk) 05:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Removal of country music charts

The removal of Taylor's US Country Chart peaks is not only baffling, but it was done without even the slightest hint of consensus. Unless someone beats me to the punch, when I have more time within the next few days, I'm restoring the data myself. Drpickem (talk) 07:44, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Any significant chart she has a notable place on, should be listed. Dream Focus 22:20, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit request

"Highway Don't Care" should be in the As Featured List table since Taylor was only featured there along with Keith Urban. See this. Mat 1997 (talk) 08:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2015

Taylor Swift's wildes re-peaked at #15 in the US. Stijnvanhussen (talk) 16:30, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

  Done Cannolis (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protect edit request

Last August 05, 2015, Taylor Swift's second studio album, Fearless, was certified 7x Platinum by the RIAA. That means, it has already sold 7M+ copies.

Source: http://riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?content_selector=gold-platinum-searchable-database# — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mat 1997 (talkcontribs) 10:37, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2015

I count 36 singles listed on the page, but the information in the first paragraph and sidebar says there are 35 singles.

Loganyu (talk) 15:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

  Done Corrected the count and thanks for noting this. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 04:22, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Pop songs chart

If your going to add country charts peaks you might as well add pop chart peaks. Most of her songs have peaked in the top 10 or top 20. All of her "1989" singles have placed in the top 5 with 4 of them hitting #1. Finaltwo (talk) 18:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Wildest Dreams became her 5th #1 on pop radio from 1989. Finaltwo (talk) 15:49, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2015

  • In the singles section, "Shake It Off's" peak of number 58 on Country Songs should be removed, as the song did not enter the Hot Country Songs chart but the Country Airplay chart, which are not the same.
  • Also in the singles section, the US Country peak chart position link leads to Top Country Albums instead of Hot Country Songs, so that should be changed.
  • I suggest that in both the albums and singles section, US Country is replaced by US Cou. as in the promotional singles section, for example.
  • In the music videos section, everytime Swift is listed with another artist only her surname is written instead of her full name, except for one case: "Both of Us" has B.o.B featuring Taylor Swift as its artist; that should be replaced by B.o.B featuring Swift.

--190.194.8.77 (talk) 16:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

  1.   Already done, edit to correct peak position was made by another user.
  2.   Done, link changed to correct page.
  3.   Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. I agree the style should be consistent but please show that there is a consensus for one or the other style.
  4.   Done, changed listing to be consistent with others in table.

THEowner of a l l 03:55, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Inclusion of country charts?

I think it's strange that the US country charts are still included in this article. Swift is an artist with broad international appeal who has charted in many countries, not to mention her last album did not rank on Billboard's country chart, and she hasn't placed a single as lead artist on the country charts since 2013's "Red" (and it peaked in 2012). Surely the space could be used to fit another country, instead of including a genre chart for a style of music that Swift has (for now) abandoned. Chase (talk | contributions) 18:38, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

New sales for 1989

5,420,000 has been sold for 1989. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770470/adele-25-already-2015-biggest-selling-album

U.K. SALES FOR 1989 : 1,000,833 as of February 2016 http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/1989-becomes-taylor-swift-s-first-million-seller-in-the-uk/064068 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.43.33.212 (talk) 01:00, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

  Done for both. Thanks. —IB [ Poke ] 10:50, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Canada sales for 1989 as of January 2016 : 2014 sales : 314,000 link: http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/public%20factsheets/Soundscan/year-end-2014-canada-music-report.pdf plus 2015 sales : 181,000 link: http://www.fyimusicnews.ca/articles/2016/01/08/nielsen-billboard%E2%80%99s-2015-canadian-music-industry-sales-report

TOTAL (2014+2015 SALES) : 495,000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.162.167.60 (talk) 14:15, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

1989's Canada sales should be updated. This was the sales report of the Canadian Music Industry on January 08, 2016: http://www.fyimusicnews.ca/articles/2016/01/08/nielsen-billboard%E2%80%99s-2015-canadian-music-industry-sales-report
Mat 1997 (talk) 02:25, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Highway Don't Care

Swift is described as the lead artist on the track here (Singles / Music videos), but it is treated as a Tim McGraw track on the song's own page and, more importantly, IRL. Suggest moving it to the as featured artist table. 217.38.111.54 (talk) 14:58, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Speak Now promo

The release date given on the song's page is October 5, 2010, not 2011 as in the table here. 217.38.111.79 (talk) 11:25, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

The 1989 World Tour - Live

"The 1989 World Tour LIVE is an exclusive release by Apple Music that captures Taylor’s entire performance from Sydney with never seen footage filmed backstage and during rehearsals with surprise musical and special guests that appeared on The 1989 World Tour."

This should be included in her discography. It can either be categorized under her Live Albums or Video Albums. Mat 1997 (talk) 03:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

It can be included. Typically, live albums are audio recorded performance, whereas video albums are typically DVDs where you can see them perform. Not sure which one it would fall under. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 04:35, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Its a video album only. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 11:05, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Why is this still not included? Mat 1997 (talk) 03:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Red (2013 CMA Awards Performance)

Taylor Swift's performance of ″Red″ at the 2013 Country Music Association Awards was released as a single on iTunes [1], why it's not in the Singles list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.130.39.106 (talk) 15:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Not it wasn't. Just because it had an independent release, does not mean its a single. Its just a live version of "Red" the track, which by the way was the original track. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 15:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
I know that it's the live version of her single "Red", but sometimes live performances also can be count as singles. For example most of The Voice contestants' live performances have been released as singles on iTunes, and many of them have charted on Billboard charts.
That is different since they are independent versions of solo singles. Not like the case for "Red". Would you consider any remix of a song as a separate instant unless they are promoted as singles? —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 17:34, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
If the remix is on the iTunes then yes it's a single. I don't think there's difference between "Red" and [this https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/god-only-knows-voice-performance/id1067658142] (just an example). They're both live performances and iTunes sells them as singles and they both have cover art, which proves that the artist's record label created the cover art and put it on iTunes, so the record label wanted it to be a single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.130.37.158 (talk) 18:24, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
No that is just original research and bullshit. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 21:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Live performances that can be bought on iTunes are never considered as OFFICIAL SINGLES. Mat 1997 (talk) 06:45, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Rhapsody Originals (2007 EP)

Should this EP be included in the article? you can find it at Rhapsody site, along with other Rhapsody Originals by diffrent artists. Please notice that we have an article for Rhapsody Originals (Brandi Carlile EP), but these Rhapsody Originals are not even mentioned under most of these artists' discography section or their discography article. Thank you very much, דיידרים (talk) 12:01, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Can i add something? I think Rhapsody Originals is a live EP or live mini album. There also be a live EP category, not only studio EP category. SamieFrost22 (talk) 06:42, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Songwriting Credits

Add Best Days of Your Life and You Always Find Your Way Back Home, performed by Kellie Pickler and Miley Cyrus respectively to songwriting credits in addition to This Is What You Came For.

Kellie Pickler interview with "TheBoot.com" talking about how she and Swift wrote the song ( http://theboot.com/story-behind-the-song-best-days-of-your-life-kellie-pickler/ )

The two songs also appear in the following wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Taylor_Swift

KAL68 (talk) 01:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  B E C K Y S A Y L E 03:11, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Taylor Swift Album

Could someone update the world sales seeing as it looks weird with the current US sales on their own being higher than the world sales.--EnderAtreides117 (talk) 01:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

The worldwide sales figure is 5 years old, so it would have been out of date. The worldwide figure should have been removed rather than reverting back to older figures. The rationale for the revert is unreasonable. The Roughstock figures are reliable, it is one of a number of specialist sites that give reliable SoundScan sales figures for specific genre. Hzh (talk) 21:34, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
@Hzh: No, I think it is weird for the US sales to be higher than the worldwide sales, very weird and it would seem inaccurate to the uncommitted reader (unless they click on the footnotes beside it which is unlikely). The US sales have increased only a bit and is unlikely to increase in the future so it does not need update. Of course when you have a source that is up-to-date, you should add that. However, I think it would be silly to remove the worldwide figures just to keep the US sales updated. If you are going to update, update both of them. – FrB.TG (talk) 07:30, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
@FrB.TG: If that is the case, then why did you removed everything? You could have simply removed that part, or even simply changed the worldwide figure to match the US figure. It is entirely unreasonable to say that because one part hasn't been updated, then nothing should. Hzh (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

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US Country/US Country Airplay Positions

I have noticed that the US Country and the US Country Airplay positions are missing. I am wondering if this is intentional or if they need to be added. RugratsFan2003 (talk) 02:14, 25 July 2017 (UTC)


I noticed them removed more than a year ago. I don't know where the discussion page from that time has gone, but someone had said at that time that "It's time to take them down" Someone else pointed out, correctly, that because Taylor Swift's entire career BEGAN in the Country music, that it was NEVER time to take them down. Then some Administrator asked that person for some "supporting documentation" to support that statement, as if it were not SELF EVIDENT. Swift's history is not correctly represented on Wikipedia until/unless the Country chart positions (both US and CAN) are restored to the list, and kept properly updated. I've read that there is a "guideline" suggesting that there be no more than 10 columns in any chart listing, but there are many exceptions all over Wikipedia. Swift's chart accomplishments should certainly be worth an exception, considering how many charts she has had success on. But regardless of number of columns or countries in which she has had subsequent success, the Country chart positions represent the entire beginning of her career. And to not keep them is to invalidate the historical accuracy of the entire article. PLEASE PUT THEM BACK ((I apologize if I have broken any rules for posting; I do not know how to put my identity here - 00:32 UTC, 6 November, 2017))

Hi both of you. Those two charts were removed during this FLRC, as it was decided that the table was better off without those two since WP:WikiProject Discographies/style recommends using only 10 columns. Hope it helps. FrB.TG (talk) 17:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2018

hello, i wanted to change the Taylor Swift's studio albums sales worldwide because they are not correct. first Fearless album has sold 9.77 million copies there is no information about that here. same as Red , Red has sold 7 million copies but on page it's 6 million , same goes to Speak Now. I see these accurate details on Album's specific pages and in certificates articles so please correct it to the right information. Thank You. Pradhumnts (talk) 06:20, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  LeoFrank  Talk 04:01, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Denmark and Japan

The most singles of Taylor haven't charted in Denmark and Japan, so why are these countries in the singles section in "Peak chart positions"? What about to replace these two countries with countries where her singles chart? — DanGaga (talk) 12:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Come edit the french wiki page on Taylor Swift's discography

Hi, I'm french. Come edit our wiki page on Taylor Swift's discography. It's better because it's regularly updated, not like here. Thanks ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FRmusic (talkcontribs) 01:11, 15 July 2019 (UTC)