Talk:Tally Hall/Archive 1

early blanking

This webpage was self-promotional and not worthwhile knowledge, hence I took the liberty of deleting it. I request that this page be removed permanently from Wikipedia.

Thanks, -Larry

Hi! Please don't blank pages. If you want a page deleted, follow the instructions on Articles for Deletion. If the majority agrees, it will be deleted. --JoanneB 12:14, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I too agree that this page is currently self-promotional in some ways. I will make a few changes. On the other hand, this page covers a valid subject: a musical band that has officially recorded an album with a publishing company. Fans exist, and if you delete this page (for real), at some point, another fan will create a new page in their ignorance of the precedent and thus lacking quality. The solution is to establish a valid style that can be later modified.

How presumptuous of Larry. They are the biggest local band in Ann Arbor (where I go to school). They are also known on some national level as they've won two John Lennon Songwriting Contests, and a music video will be featured on three upcoming episodes of The Real World Key West and a song will be featured in two upcoming episode of the OC [1]

. They are obviously an up-and-coming, relevant band. What's Larry's problem?

Some changes I will make shortly:

Removing most of the links to the videos. Those are easily linked to from the band's official site. I will change the subject in that section to how the music vid 'Banana Man' gained significant initial publicity for the band.

Gertlex 22:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Band Member section

Edit to section stated this was taken from their website... and would be a copyvio. Regardless it is a bit too "fanboy". If someone wants to add expanded bios using their site as source material that is fine, but do an original write and try and retain a bit more encyclopedic tone.--Isotope23 19:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Page move

Saw the page move request. I originally thought "Tally Hall" referred to something quite different, but I found this researching: [2]. The building is an office/parking structure. [3] Info suggests the building has a mixed history and has been unused for various periods. While it is not mentioned by name in History of Ann Arbor, Michigan, from descriptions and maps, the lead picture may have been taken from the parking structure. There was also a Tally Hall Press in the same city. Both the publisher and the band likely got their names from the building. From what I can tell, neither the building nor the publisher are very notable, so the band should have the main article space. The building should definitely be mentioned in the band article if it is the source of the band name, and the publisher could be mentioned there too as another entity which took its name from the building. Gimmetrow 01:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the band's name is not taken from the Ann Arbor building, but from the shopping center in Farmington Hills where "Marvin's" stands. The article is correct on this point. Jnmwiki (talk) 23:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Is the mini-mall really all that notable?--Donbert 16:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I originally thought "Tally Hall" referred to something quite different, but I found this researching: [4]. The building is an office/parking structure. [5] Info suggests the building has a mixed history and has been unused for various periods. While it is not mentioned by name in History of Ann Arbor, Michigan, from descriptions and maps, the lead picture may have been taken from the parking structure. There was also a Tally Hall Press in the same city. Both the publisher and the band likely got their names from the building. From what I can tell, neither the building nor the publisher are very notable, so the band should have the main article space. The building should definitely be mentioned in the band article if it is the source of the band name, and the publisher could be mentioned there too as another entity which took its name from the building. Gimmetrow 01:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I have redirected to Tally Hall (band). —Centrx→talk • 02:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

shouldnt we also list their appearance on The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson and their cover of Smile Like You Mean It, which is a part of the OC soundtrack? Not to mention, now that they're semi-famous, their entire song devoted to Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson should be mentioned somewhere on WP. Blueaster 09:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

References 1, 2 & 4 are all 404's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.206.68 (talk) 00:25, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Article history

This article was originally created on June 26, 2005. It underwent various revisions until October 6, 2005, at which point it was nominated for deletion; the consensus was that the group was not then sufficiently notable (although I personally disagreed), and the article was deleted on October 15, 2005. The band continued to perform, and subsequently did achieve the requisite level of notability; as a consequence, the article was re-created independently on January 5, 2006. On January 24, 2007, the histories of the two versions were merged. DS 15:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Recordings?

That link to archive.org - the collection seems to be empty. Anyone know anything more about it? DS 15:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Atlantic Records

According to an email just sent out by thier email list, they have been signed by Atlantic Records. No mention of this has been made on the sight though, and the email said "more to come on this later" so it probably shouldn't be included in the article yet. But if anyone is still thinking this page should be considered for deletion, think again - these guys are gonna be big. According to the email, Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum will be re-released this fall by Atlantic. Snowboardpunk 03:45, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy Monster Band

Is it true that Tally Hall is involved with the Happy Monster Band? The IMDb seems to say so: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1073606/ 71.241.92.195 02:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Complete Demos.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I've uploaded a photo of them playing live, replacing a previously uploaded one that I felt was of very poor quality. What this page needs is granted permission from Atlantic Records to place an official promo shot of the band. I will look into getting the permission, but how do I prove I have it? --Cozbaldwin (talk) 04:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Internet show?

"Taking on an even larger role within the band's video portfolio will be the ten part series Tally Hall's Internet Show, scheduled to debut on April 22nd, 2008 with each episode being approximately ten minutes long. The content is said to include skits, music, and band-related shorts."

This date has passed. I have never heard about this and I'm not sure if this really exists. I will try to check it myself, if I can. Mynameisnotpj (talk) 11:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I went to the official website and unfortunately, the new website design is not finished. When I googled ""Tally Hall's internet show", the only things that came up were blocked by my school. I will try tonight, when I get home. Mynameisnotpj (talk) 11:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

The internet show is very real and would have debuted by now if it wasn't for complications between the band and its label. According to Atlantic Records (as of 2 days ago) the Internet Show will launch in about a month. They've already got 5 episodes completed and finishing up the other 5 as we speak. --Cozbaldwin (talk) 04:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Good & Evil

I merged the Good & Evil info from the Tally Hall article to the (at the time sparse) Good & Evil article itself. It is more appropriate there. --131.229.168.162 (talk) 05:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

External Links

In reference to this I find that WP:Notability should be reviewed.--ForgottenHistory (talk) 01:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Notability doesn't depend on how good the subject maintains its own website but how well-recognized they are. However, the fan site was removed per WP:ELNO. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

general cleaning

I just cleaned a number of items, including the above listed fan site (see WP:ELNO). I completely hid the trivia section per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections. Most of it could be removed, but any "important" information should be merged into the appropriate section. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)