Talk:Tafasta merube lo tafasta
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Latest comment: 7 years ago by Tbfhhvuv in topic Several issues with this entry
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"Jack of all trades" connection seems a little dubious... reminds me rather of the phrase "your eyes are bigger than your belly." Moon Oracle (talk) 11:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Several issues with this entry
edit- The title is (probably) incorrect. Modern Hebrew pronunciation is "tafasta merube, lo tafasta", and though I'm not a linguist I think this was always the case.
- The Hebrew spelling is incorrect (and indeed inconsistent with the quote later) - תפסת rather than תפשת.
- The phrase "it should be taken from the narrower of the two, in order to stay on the safe side and avoid making assumptions about which is correct" is highly subjective (the idiom is neither "correct" nor "incorrect").
- The part about the mythical egg contributes nothing except for the quote, which is not explained in any way (apparently it refers to either this or this) - without a link and a thorough explanation of how this is relevant here it's completely worthless.
- The "Explanation" section is not an explanation at all but some Talmudic debate, which doesn't make much sense even to me as a Jew (who hasn't studied the Talmud) so presumably to most visitors of the page. Furthermore, much like the introduction, it's worded very subjectively, as if "we" are bound by this idiom as a law, and with very Talmudic but not very encyclopedic rhetorical questions.
- While the phrase is well-recognized by Hebrew speakers, I have never heard it used in English, either as a verbatim quote or as a calque.
I'm marking this page for deletion. I think its mention in Jack of all trades, master of none is sufficient for the English language Wikipedia, and while I commend the author for taking time and effort to share their knowledge of Judaism, I think that, in its current state, the page contains more misinformation than information and I can't see a way to improve that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.23.24 (talk) 22:19, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- The alternative spelling is correct according to the Hebrew Language Academy (see here), however it is preferable that the page stick to one spelling or at least explicitly mention that both are correct. The title, however, is wrong, as can be seen in the Hebrew Wiktionary page - "מְרֻבֶּה". I don't think this necessarily warrants deletion - although the Talmudic debate and the giant bird seem arbitrary and unclear to me too - but it at least requires a major rewrite (the rhetorical questions are undesirable, and the usage of "should" and "we" violates NPOV). I'll try to revise the page to address these issues later.
- EDIT: I edited the page, will be glad for a rabbi to take a look and make sure that my edit retains the spirit of the Talmudic debate and add further explanations where needed (I don't feel well-versed enough in the Talmud to add them myself). Tbfhhvuv (talk) 09:19, 21 June 2017 (UTC)