Talk:Suzuki/Archive 1

Suzuki ATVs

Anybody got the time and knowlege to article more Suzuki ATVs, this would be greatly appreciated.82.148.97.69 09:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks unaccurate

The article says: "133 distributors in 192 countries."

This looks unaccurate. If the company has presence in 192 countries, and has at least one distributor per contry, how could be there less distribuitors than countries? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.145.238.164 (talk) 14:12, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

A distributor can have multiple franchises or warehouses, I would assume. So maybe these franchises/warehouses are located in multiple countries. Pandacomics (talk) 06:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Car model error

Mazda AZ Wagon is the same as the Suzuki Wagon R (Wagon RR, Stingray), not the Suzuki MR Wagon. Info here is correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_AZ-Wagon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.80.4.128 (talk) 11:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

External links

I removed all the external links except the link to the company's global website. there is no need for all the country websites since they can be accesed through the global site. I also removed forum, fansites and other links in accordance with WP:EL Chris Ssk (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I can't get to http://www.suzukicycles.com/ from the single link you have left behind. Did you verify that all the links you deleted can be reached from the global site like you insist? I can't. Corey Salzano (talk) 15:39, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Go to links, select USA, it will open the link to Suzuki USA, select motorcycles, scooters or ATV's and you will be redirected to suzukicycles.Chris Ssk (talk) 22:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey, cool. Corey Salzano (talk) 16:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Pronounced

Some seem to have taken offence to the comment that the common English pronunciation of Suzuki is an incorrect one. There should be no offence taken. Mr. Suzuki's name is pronounced as the Japanese pronunciation is on this article. Because of this, the company is also pronounced this way. It is the same situation with Porsche. Dr. Porsche's name is not pronounced as a single syllable and it is therefore incorrect to refer to his car company in such a way. It would be incorrect to pronounce Henry Ford's Ford company as fur-ed, as that would be the incorrect pronunciation of Henry's last name. This is also the case with Suzuki.

Suzuki as a proper Japanese name is not pronounced in the way it is typically done so by English speaking individuals. This pronunciation by English speaking individuals is therefore incorrect. Again, there is no reason to take offence at this, it is just the way it is. Deal with it. Dale-DCX (talk) 07:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

English please

... as the name Ninja to the looking of the sport bike which was called to the Kawasaki product. Jack Roo (talk) 10:49, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Biased Motorcycles

The section on motorcycles seems heavily biased towards sport bikes (GSX) only and a moped. Sure there is a link to a list of all models, but the wide range of cruisers and standard bikes should also have a breif mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.103.71.137 (talk) 02:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

How come Suzuki is written in katakana?

I'm sorry, I am not very familiar with Japanese. But I was wondering why the company Suzuki (スズキ) is written in katakana, and not in kanji like the family name Suzuki (鈴木). Honda (本田) is still written in kanji like its family name. Thanks, --71.141.132.210 (talk) 20:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's true that the company name "Suzuki" came from the family name of the founder "鈴木", along with "Toyota" came from "豊田". But the official names registered to the Japanese Government are "スズキ株式会社" and "トヨタ自動車株式会社".

In contrally, "Honda" is "本田技研工業株式会社" and "Nissan" is "日産自動車株式会社".

I don't know why, but the official documents say so.--J. G. Yu (talk) 04:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was withdrawn, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 00:12, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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Suzuki → Suzuki Motor Corporation — More precise name in English (see also Ford Motor Company). "Suzuki" of course will still redirect here.--Facts707 (talk) 17:53, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• Move - There are so many Suzukis, that we have to adapt to the motor company is not always being the most-recognized sense in the worldwide Wikipedia readership.--Dbratland (talk) 18:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• Oppose The car company seems to be the primary meaning. NES Wii (talk) 19:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose It is the most common usage of the word. Same discussion was had about Ducati vs Ducati Motor Holdings and it is the shortened name which won. --Biker Biker (talk) 21:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose per COMMONNAME; the proposed move would be excessive precision, resulting in a long and clumsy title. Flamarande (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose: per COMMONNAME. OSX (talk • contributions) 08:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
• Withdraw request - thanks for the feedback. A closer look at WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRECISION as well as the disamb. page indicates the name should stay as is. Ford Motor Company will have to debate its own future. Facts707 (talk) 11:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Page move back to Suzuki

The consensus from the discussion above was to keep the page at Suzuki, not to move it to Suzuki Motor Corporation. At the time I supported the move but if you just ignore consensus you can expect the page to be moved back.

Please read the talk page before moving a page. It should be moved back now and a new move proposal made (though consider WP:Snowball) made before moving it again. --Dbratland (talk) 04:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Misleading statement removed

In this edit I removed a statement, based on this press article, which stated that most of Suzuki's profits came from its Indian subsidiary. That is not what the press article said and it is incorrect to assume that just because subsidiary X from country Y makes a profit of Z, which happens to be bigger than the parent company's overall profit, that subsidary X is the largest contributor. Without a country-by-country and subsidiary-by-subsidiary publication/comparison or a direct statement by Suzuki in its annual report (or other financial submission) there is no way of knowing exactly what makes up the parent company's final profit figure. Obviously if such a source can be found then it should be used and the claim reinstated. --Biker Biker (talk) 10:26, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Unsupported statement

The article states " Suzuki put XL7 production on indefinite hiatus in mid-2009 due to low demand and subsequently sold off its share of CAMI back to GM later that year." without any supporting evidence.

It is unlikely, given Suzuki sales numbers for the XL7 in the US were similar to the other vehicles in their line up, that they stopped production for that reason. I suspect it was more to do with GM selling their share in Suzuki and invoking their claim to the remaining ownership of the CAMI plant, coupled with GM's reluctance to assist other automakers they cast away - eg. Saab, and GM's deliberate refusal to support Saab find new buyers by allowing continued access to GM parts; cf. with how Ford handled the sale of Volvo, allowing the new owners 5 years of continued supply of Ford parts until they could establish their own internal design/supply. The reality is that Suzuki was forced to stop XL7 production by GM as GM liquidated their share of Suzuki and CAMI. Ideally, I'd like the sentence changed to reflect what happened, but I honestly can't be bothered to dig the references up for a single sentence, so I'd be equally happy if the sentence (as it currently is) was deleted as simply unsupported/unreferenced. 75.54.54.34 (talk) 00:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

The way to accomplish that is to place a {{cn}} or {{fact}} tag at the end of the disputed sentence, where the reference would normally go. A bot will then date it, and after you wait a reasonable amount of time (my theory is to wait until I forget all about it, and whenever I remember it again is a good time to check) it can safely be deleted if no one found a reference. For articles on living persons, things may be deleted much sooner.  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 04:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Suzuki America filed for bankruptcy

Recent news on Suzuki America's death. Should be updated to reflect this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.223.51 (talk) 01:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

News link. Since Wikipedia is not news, give this a week or two to settle so we can write something comprehensive. An encyclopedia doesn't need to be up-to-the-second. Wikinews can handle it. And no indication that this is the "death" of American Suzuki Motor. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 01:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)