Talk:Strophe
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Direction
editI have found several different sites with differing meanings of wether the chorus moved from left to right or from right to left
http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/classics/dunkle/comedy/intro22.htm says its from left to right
www.iolani.org/usacad_eng_eng10dterms_cw9404.htm Says its from right to left
everybody agrees that the antistrophe was the other way.
I'm thinking that maybe some people recorded it from the chorus's point of view and others from the audience's point of view, thus inverting it.
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Moving to wiktionary?
editI really don't think this page should be moved to wiktionary. There's a lot of theory behind strophes, and that's not just references to other elements of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tulcod (talk • contribs) 12:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Do not move, but copy. I second Tulcod's observation.
Types
editThis seems to be in Spanish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Augurar (talk • contribs) 23:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Pseudo-article
editI really don't think this article is in any way comprehensible to anyone. There are no definitions, no examples and no references. I don't know what it is doing here. Perhaps it should be tagged for deletion. But, if we are thinking of article rescue, editors, don't be put off by its mysterious language and difficult ideas. It is mysterious because it says nothing, difficult because incomprehensible. I'm not going to say, if you can't do better than this, don't bother. No indeed. I do not attack editors. Thank you for creating a place holder here, editor(s). WP encourages everyone inclined to do so to edit. In mathematics, the main place holder is zero. We don't have zero here, no indeed. What I would say is, pay no attention at all to the current words. Just go right ahead and rewrite the article. I doubt if anyone is going to defend it; there would have to be something there to defend! In fact, I disapprove of the organization, which seems trivial. We want to start - to start, I say, with the definition and make it clear what a stophe is. Then we might go on the the kinds and examples. No lists please. As far as putting it on Wiktionary is concerned, put what on Wiktionary? This is not a definition of a strophe and no one is in any way illuminated. Before we can get to B we have to go through A.Dave (talk) 22:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- This article has good initial content. It needs filling out, intra-Wikipedia links and recasting of the list of types which lead to explanations of the techincal terms so far introduced, and a stated relationship between the Italianate Spanish terms used, original Greek, Turkish, and all other language and cultural cases in which strophes occur, including English terminology. The preceding sections are already decently linked.
Types
editRemoving this list - which seems to be something about Spanish poetry and not generally applicable. Bacchiad (talk) 20:26, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Two verses
Pareado: aa / AA.
Alegría (Happiness):
Cosante:
Dístico elegiaco:
Three Verses
Terceto: 11A 11B 11A
Tercetillo:
Soleá: a-a
Four Verses
Cuarteto: 11A 11B 11B 11A
Redondilla: 8a 8b 8b 8a
Serventesio: 11A 11B 11A 11B
Cuarteta: 8a 8b 8a 8b
Copla: - a - a
Seguidilla: 7a 5b 7a 5b ó 7- 5a 7- 5a
Cuaderna vía: 14A 14A 14A 14A
Five Verses
Quintilla:
Double Quintilla
Quintilla endecasílaba
Quintilla of Fray Luis de León
Royal Quintilla
Quinteto:
Quinteto de arte mayor
Quinteto contracto
Quinteto agudo
Lira: 7a 11B 7a 7b 11B
Six Verses
Sexteto o sextina: Versos
Sextilla:
Copla de pie quebrado or copla manriqueña: 8a 8b 4c 8a 8b 4c
Seven Verses
Compound Seguidilla: 7- 5a 7- 5a 5b 7- 5b
Eight Verses
Royal Octava: ABABABCC
Copla de arte mayor: ABBAACCA
Octavilla: 4- 4a 4a 4b 4- 4c 4c 4b
Ten Verses
Décima o espinela: abbaaccddc
Seguidilla chamberga: 7- 5a 7- 5a 3b 7b 3c 7c 3d 7d
Hard to parse clause in "Contemporary usage"
editIn This appropriation of the ancient term is useful, as contemporary poetry is a frequent turns (the original meaning of Strophe), and it avoids relying upon the invention of new terminology such as 'word clumps'.
, I have trouble parsing and interpreting the clause in italics, contemporary poetry is a frequent turns
. I can make it make sense by changing "is a" to "has", "uses", or "relies on", but I'm not sure which if any is the intended meaning. Does anyone know? The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 22:15, 20 January 2022 (UTC)