Talk:Stedingen

stedingen

Hi guys I find the article tending towards a subjective tone. am I being too sensitive, see the final line of the article "These proud, brave country folk, who had taken up arms for the defense of their homeland and their freedom, were killed. Nearly 5,000 Stedinger bodies covered the blood soaked earth of their land , where once the waters of the Weser had flowed."

It seem's to be written in the manner of a story rather than that of an article.

Also, this: "This a rare crusade in the history of the Roman Catholic church, because the Stedingers were not heathens or heretics."

I don't want to debate whether the Stendingers were heretics or not, but they were formaly charged as such by the Church. Otherwise, a crusade couldn't not be called against them. Besides, this sentence makes it seem like the Stendingers were the only people crusaded against that *weren't* heretics, which is questionable, to say the least. Were the Templars heretics or just skilled bankers who stepped on someone's toe? Were the Fratticeli heretics or just winning over masses by preaching for a less wealthy Christianity? Likewise, were the Stendingers heretics, or were they just too liberal for their times? TomorrowTime 13:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Is the 27th of Merrymoon a real date? The only place I see "Merrymoon" in the great Web is in the Odinist Community, founded in 1981 and a similar web site that I shouldn't have hit on the work computer. I question the authenticity of this entry. If I am wrong I would like to know what it really means. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.13.74.72 (talk) 23:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

DUP

This seems to be repeated immediately following in an expanded form. I moved the short version here alothough it has the advantage of being concise:

Frisians settled there in the 12th century, becoming known as Stedingers, and they turned the swamps into polders. To attract settlers, the settlers were given many rights and low taxes. Stedingen developed into a rich farmer republic in the early 13th century.

The archbishop of Bremen and the count of Oldenburg tried to curtail the rights of the farmers, which led to a revolt in 1204. Archbishop Gerhard II of Bremen excommunicated the farmers in 1228. He convinced the Pope to declare a 'crusade' against the Stedingers in 1232. An army of crusaders was initially repelled by the Stedingers in 1233. The archbishop managed to defeat the Stedingers in the Battle of Altenesch in 1234 with a large army of crusaders. This a rare crusade in the history of the Roman Catholic church, because the Stedingers were not heathens or heretics.

Headings

I added some more headings, but the titles of them could be better. RJFJR (talk) 18:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

old German order?

Being Saxons, the Stedingers used the Saxon customary law that was (late) codified in the Sachsenspiegel almost contemporarily with the Stedingen wars.

But that Saxon law was also used under the rule of grafen/greven and of bishops.

Their self-government may have been influenced by the Frisian rules of their northern neighbours and by the Holland rules (Hollerrecht) of the new founded settlements in the marshes.

Therefore, the term "old German order" sounds a bit ignorant.--Ulamm (talk) 10:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)