Talk:Specialization in bees

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Hi Paige! I think you have a good start. I only have a couple of notes:

-Maybe include bee specialized pollination structures in the flower specialization section? Or put the subsections closer together? -Include distribution information? -What are some causes of speciation events? -Make sure to explain the nomenclature with eusociality, solitary, social etc. (I think you said the definitions were unique for bees, right?)

Looks good so far! Annie

- I would suggest expanding the lead section. Include the major important topics that are discussed throughout the article.

- You had so many helpful and great images in your presentation, try to add some of those into the article. If they are your own images, you shouldn't have trouble just uploading them and claiming that you are not interfering with copyright.

- At the top of the page, it says the article is an orphan. What I did was went to other articles of related topic and linked my page on the other articles, when relevant.

- Your wording sounds great!

Arobson1 (talk) 17:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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Purpose of article?

Hi, I'm not sure I can see any purpose of this article (other than to complete a project, which is a purpose potentially at odds with Wikipedia's). The classification and phylogeny of bees is a matter for the bee article and should not be treated here. Actually, the various ways that bees are specialized to collect pollen, nectar, etc, is also a matter for that article, and it says much the same sorts of things as this article.

A problem with the title is that it is necessarily a rag-bag of items which may often be unrelated: specializations for drinking nectar don't have a lot to do with those for carrying pollen, for instance. Therefore the article is at best always going to be list-like, without much of a connecting thread between items. There is such a thread, of course, but that is the thread running through the bee article itself, the nature of bee-ness, and it can't be repeated here.

There are already articles on bee-related topics, such as entomophily (where rewards of nectar and pollen obviously play a part): these are coherent entities with their own story, both evolutionary and narrative. If there are additional such stories, say the evolution, history, and anatomy of the pollen basket (that one exists already), then by all means write an article on any such.

I'm minded to move a merge and redirect to bee unless there are far more convincing grounds - far more substantial things to say, and a far more coherent theme (but that seems impossible) - than are currently hinted at in this article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:58, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

In the absence of any comment, I've started a formal merger discussion at Talk:Bee. Please leave comments there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap: The suggestion to merge the specializations into the bee article is a good one! Beezing is an expert in bee floral specializations, which is clearly reflected in the quality of her contribution. We definitely want her contribution to be in the best possible place so that the Wikipedia community can benefit from her expertise, so we appreciate your input greatly. In discussing the merge (with the Wikipedia Foundation Education), we concluded the following would be the best course of action. We noticed that some of the information (e.g. nesting materials) seems to fit better with information already on the bee page as you have done, so Beezing will simply check that the information there is accurate and add citations as needed. The floral rewards portion seems to be better off as a stand alone subsection within bee Ecology, given this is a distinct aspect of bee ecology with little coverage right now. Beezing will be taking relevant information from some other areas of the article (that might have become jumbled in the merge as they are no longer accurate and don't fit in their current sections) to merge with other Floral reward specializations. Please let us know if you have any further ideas and thank you for your work to improve Wikipedia! Evol&Glass (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:51, 27 April 2016 (UTC)