Talk:South India/GA1

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 11:27, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I will be reviewing this article. Adding my comments in 24 hours. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 11:27, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Cool! Good to work with you again! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 14:46, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

I am working on duplinks and reference from the bottom of the article. Will update once done.Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:18, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Sainsf, Guess all the changes have been made. Pls chk once and we can close this! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 20:06, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Lead

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 06:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• I would like to have the citations removed from the lead and adding them to the main text.Y
• South India includes the southern part of the peninsular Deccan Plateau and is bounded by the Bay of Bengal in the east, the Arabian Sea in the west and the Indian Ocean in the south --> Covering the southern part of the peninsular Deccan Plateau, south India is bounded by the Bay of Bengal in the east, the Arabian Sea in the west and the Indian Ocean in the south.Y
• Link plateau, fertility rateY
• two mountain ranges the Western and Eastern Ghats bordering --> two mountain ranges-the Western and Eastern Ghats-borderingY
• are the largest urban areas in the region. I think it is better to say this directly : "are the millionplus urban agglomerations in the region." (there are about 15 million plus agglomerations and did not want to list everything Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:07, 20 March 2016 (UTC))

Etymology

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 06:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• Italics not needed for South/Peninsular IndiaY
• Deccan --> "Deccan"Y
• anglicized--> anglicised. This article should follow British English or rather Indian EnglishY

Ancient era

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 06:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• Starting from the Sangam period, trade happened with Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Syrians, Jews and Chinese --> Trade with Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Syrians, Jews and Chinese began from the Sangam periodY
• Please add how long ago the Sangam period wasY
• Several dynasties ruled over the region such as "Several dynasties such as ... ruled over the region."Y
• How are these dynasties arranged? In the order of their periods of rule?Y(arranged as per period start. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:20, 20 March 2016 (UTC))
• When was the Vijayanagara Empire founded here?Y

Colonial era

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 06:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• in 15th century , end of Vellore Mutiny "the"Y
• control of South India "of" --> "over"Y
• consolidated power "their"Y
• Link princely state if this is the first mentionY
• Duplink: British East India CompanyY

Post Independence

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:03, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• After Indian Independence in 1947 --> After the independence of India in 1947Y
• As a result of this act "Act", not "act"Y
• What is taluk?Y
• "the" Bombay State, "the" Hyderabad StateY
• union territory Link?Y
• June 2, 2014 Best to write 2 June 2014 Y
• Many duplinks: Madras State, Travancore-Cochin, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Hyderabad State, Kerala, Mysore State, South Canara, Karnataka, PondichéryY
• As a result of this Act, Madras State retained its name with Kanyakumari district added to from Travancore-Cochin Not sure what this meansY
• Why has Mysore State been separated from the others into a separate para?Y
• comprises ten districts in northwestern Andhra Pradesh Not sure what this meansY

Geography

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Don't repeat "by the" in the first lineY
• Both the ghats What is a ghat?Y
• Duplinks: Eastern Ghats, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Lakshadweep, Deccan plateau, Bay of BengalY
• Palakkad and Wayanad hills, and the Sathyamangalam ranges Is a comma needed? It may alter the meaning.Y

Climate

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• with rainfall dependent on monsoons --> and depends on monsoons for rainfallY
• In the Köppen climate classification, it is a non-arid climate --> According to the Köppen climate classification, it has a non-arid climateY
• with mean temperatures of minimum 18 °C (64 °F) What does this mean?Y
• Andhra Pradesh gets between commaY
• falls on Tamil Nadu "in" not "on"Y
• with mean monthly temperatures... for agriculture Needs some fixing. Convert template?Y
• "north-east" not "North-East" monsoon same for South-WestY
• which brings devastating bringY
• Tropical cyclones are rapidly rotating... Bay of Bengal Grammar errors. The whole of this is actually redundant.Y
• Duplinks: Western Ghats, Lakshadweep, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, North–East Monsoon, Bay of Bengal, Arabian Sea, Tropical cyclonesY
• The last para on tropical cyclones seems out of scope.Y

Subdivisions

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:54, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• Source for the intro para?Y
• Don't link union territories if already done as requested in HistoryY
• Is every point of the tables sourced? How are sources arranged here?Y(changed and sourced as per census 2011; Andhra was split later and hence added sources separately for AP and TS. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 08:47, 20 March 2016 (UTC))
• Duplinks: Puducherry, Lakshadweep and Andaman and NicobarY

Demographics

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• The region's total fertility rate Add (TFR) so that we are not confused with it when used later on.Y
• What is replacement level?Y

It looks a bit more messy. We need just the link here. Please restore the line and simply link the term. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Y

• tap water. Wells and springs Too common to be linkedY
• The Per capita income No capsY
• by United Nations "the"Y
• Duplinks: Kerala and Tamil NaduY
• Can it be a bit clearer that the next two paras after the intro are based on the 2011 census?Y

Languages

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• seventy-three We should typically write this in digitsY
• Official Languages Act no italicsY
• Duplinks: Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam, Konkani, Government of IndiaY
• No caps for speakers and spoken in the tableY
• Sources for the number of speakers?Y

Religion

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Prehistoric religion why caps?Y
• world traces its commaY

Seems you did not fix it well. Done now. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 05:34, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Link ArabY
• Duplinks: Hinduism, Jains, Malabar coast, Deccan Sultanates, Muziris, Kerala, Jewish communitiesY
• Do you not think the discussion about the history of religion should go to the History section? (According to me, it makes more sense to be with religion as the sub section deals with it exclusively. It is not notable enough to overall history to be included in history section. Let me know your comments. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC))

Economy

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• after independence no link needed here Y
• Link socialist Y
• Duplinks: Kerala, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, monsoons, Godavari, cotton, tea, rubber, spices, Chennai, Telangana Y
• is the second most industrialized state in the country After which state?Y

Administration

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Puducherry and the other five states has an elected state government while the Lakshadweep and Andaman islands are centrally administered by the President of India Repetition from "Subdivisions". I think it would be better if "Subdivision" comes before this section or is the first subsection under this.Y
• Can you add a title for the gallery?Y
• Tamil Nadu, Kerala and Puducherry follow unicameral legislature while Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Telangana follow bicameral legislature. Source? This line should anyway go to the next para.Y
• Duplinks: centrally, President of India, coalitionY

Politics

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:06, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Duplinks: Madras Presidency, Self-Respect Movement, Tamil Nadu, Indian National Congress, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka Y
• led the party on the death of Jawaharlal Nehru You mean after the death? Y
• Indian National Congress should be linked at first mention in the section Y

Clothing

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:06, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• The dance, clothing, and sculptures of South Indian exemplify the celebration of the beauty of the body and motherhood Could this be more encyclopedic? We can write beautifully but this seems a bit too flowery and unclear. This intro may not even be needed.Y (Moved down and rephrased. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC))
• There are more than 80 recorded ways to wear a sari and the most common style is for the sari to be wrapped around the waist, with the loose end of the drape to be worn over the shoulder, baring the midriff. Seems out of scopeY
• In Indian philosophy, the navel is considered as the source of life and creativity and hence by tradition, the stomach and the navel is left unconcealed Does this imply that because of this philosophy the stomach and navel are kept bare?Y (yes exactly; re-worded. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC))
• While the colorful appearance of dhotis is mentioned, that of the saris is not.Y
• western dress is getting increasingly popular since when?Y

Cuisine

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:06, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Duplinks: rice, spices, coconutY
• using clean fingers of the right hand to transfer the food to the mouth. Source?Y

Arts

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Cinema

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 17:07, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• Source for the table? It needs to be updated for 2015. (CBFC has not released data for 2015. Last updated is 2014 in website. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:58, 21 March 2016 (UTC))
• South Indian film industry released 1032 feature films in 2014 contributing to 53% of the total films produced in India. This could be added for every year. So what is the significance of this line? It can be covered by the table for the latest year. (modified it. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 16:58, 21 March 2016 (UTC)) Y

Literature

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:26, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Architecture

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:26, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Transport

• Bus services are provided by...Puducherry Road Transport Corporation. Source?Y
• Source for the road density column of the first table? And for all points in the following tables?Y
• 80-mile link convertY
• Much of the "Rail" part could go to the History section(Again, in my opinion, it feels appropriate to be in rail section as it is specific to rail transport. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 17:57, 21 March 2016 (UTC))
• The region is covered by water on three sides and has a long coastline redundant(first mention. It is not redundant. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 17:57, 21 March 2016 (UTC))

When you say South India is peninsular, this is what is implied isn't it? Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 18:02, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Got it. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 20:02, 22 March 2016 (UTC) Y

• Major ports include Chennai, Visakhapatnam, Mangalore, Tuticorin, Ennore and Kochi. Don't leave this unsourcedY
• Duplinks: Madras Presidency, Madras Railway, Indian NavyY

Flora and fauna

 Done Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 05:35, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• What is this section doing at the bottom of the article? (Pl. suggest where should it go. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 12:03, 20 March 2016 (UTC))

Shifted to the bottom of Climate. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 05:35, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

• high altitude rain forests --> rainforests located at high altitudes Y
• the backwaters of Pulicat and the backwaters of Kerala Can we avoid repeating "backwaters"? Y
• one of the largest populations in India? World? Repair this in the caption Y
• Karnataka, in colon not comma Y
• crest-line What is this? Y
• In the last line some animal names begin with caps, why? Y
• Duplinks: UNESCO, Pulicat, mangrove Y

Sources

Similar comments as in earlier reviews and a few issues:

• Bracket to be removed in ref.5Y
• In refs. 4 and 5 can you write the way you have in, say, refs. 8,9,10? Looks neater.Y
• Italics and link for The Hindu (ref.7) Please see that all newspapers are linked appropriately in the citationsY
• ref. 30: mention the author (Geological Society of America)Y
• ref. 63: not properly cited. Use the cite-journal, feed 19001685 in the PMID parameter and click autofill. That should work. You can also add http://medind.nic.in/iby/t08/i8/ibyt08i8p198.pdf in the URL parameterY
• ref. 80: Use cite-journal templateY
• ref. 116, 123, 125: proper formattingY
• ref. 188: why is the journal name repeated?Y
• refs. 193, 194: ISBN?Y
• ref. 213: The publisher should be "IRCTC"Y
• ref. 237 Link Indian NavyY
• ref. 241: dead linkY
• ref. 242 Link UNESCOY
• refs. 77, 99, 107, 110, 121, 157, 159, 229, 233 look inappropriate or not so reliableY

An FAC-level point: Please ensure that e are using Indian/British English throughout the article. I am trying to help with this. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

All done. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 15:44, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Found time for this today, I will add all my comments. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Alright, all my concerns have been appropriately addressed. In my opinion the article now meets all the criteria for a good article. I am glad to promote this. Cheers! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 03:44, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! It was good working with you again! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 18:11, 23 March 2016 (UTC)