Talk:Sinatra & Sextet: Live in Paris

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Bvo66 in topic Several errors in article

Several errors in article edit

I'm afraid this article contains a few errors in its describing the show featured on the CD as being Mr Sinatra's "first concert in Paris" dated "June 5", 1962 and being "an unedited concert" performance. Let me explain:

A) During his "All God's Children" welfare tour with the Bill Miller Sextet from April to June 1962, Sinatra did two shows in Paris. The first one was on June 5, 1962, at The Lido, where he was introduced to the audience by French radio personality Louis Merlin; this indeed was his first full-time concert appearance in Paris. The second show took place on June 7, 1962, at the famous Olympia theatre, where Sinatra was introduced by French-Armenian singer-songwriter-actor legend Charles Aznavour. (On the day in-between, June 6, Sinatra visited the nearby community of Bruyères-le-Châtel, attending the ceremony of a wing of the St-Jean-de-Dieu hospital's summer home for crippled children being dedicated in his name.) As with the majority of his concerts during this tour, Sinatra had both Paris shows professionally recorded, and both recordings do survive in their unedited entirety.
B) The recording of Sinatra's June 5, 1962 concert at The Lido has never been commercially released so far (while winding up on some bootlegs over the years). Its set of songs performed differs slightly from the June 7, 1962 Olympia performance.
C) Both the 1994 official Reprise CD releaase, as well as the 1992 unofficial CD also mentioned in the article, in spite of what their liner notes claim respectevly, contain large parts of the June 7(!) concert at The Olympia with Asznavour presenting Sinatra (and not the June 5 at The Lido with Merlin presenting Sinatra).
D) Neither CD contains the full unedited concert of June 7 at The Olympia: The 1992 unofficial CD lacked three songs ("Without A Song", "I've Got You Under My Skin" and "All The Way") but had Sinatra's trademark "tea-break"-monologue (which he did between songs "You're Nobody Till Somebody Loves You" and "They Can't Take That Away From Me" at about the middle of his set) intact. The 1994 Reprise release included "Without A Song" and "I've Got You Under My Skin" at their proper place within the set (as in the track listing given in the article), but lacks Sinatra's monologue and, like the 1992 CD, the song "All The Way", which Sinatra performed after "They Can't Take That Away From Me" (#16) before "Chicago" (#17).
E) The Reprise liner notes' erroneous date, possibly sponsored by its unofficial predecessor bearing the same error, was spotted soon after the Reprise release, but was never officially corrected by Reprise (including the 2009 180g-vinyl MFSL LP release and the 2010 Universal CD re-release of this set), but has long been publicly acknowledged, e.g. on the Sinatra Family's official website here, as well as in the digital Sinatra discography by Giuseppe Marcucci: The Sinatra Legacy. Florence/Amsterdam , 5th edition 2007 (Where Or When: Sinatra Database CD-Rom), pp. 1–1487, here see entries in section XV for 06-05-62 and 06-07-62; and at Jazzdiscography.com (see [here], entry for June 7, 1962. The latter two also show the place of "All The Way" among the original set performed at The Olympia.

Therefore, I kindly suggest corrections to the article be made accordingly. Regards, --Bvo66 (talk) 11:33, 2 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Poorly written article edit

This article is poorly written in that reference to time of year have no reference to year. Sentences such as "That Spring...", but which year? Or "It was his first concert he ever performed in Paris, France.", but what year?