Talk:Sicilian Defence, Dragon Variation

Latest comment: 10 months ago by MaxBrowne2 in topic Merge proposal

Yugoslav attack with 9. g4

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Any value in including some analysis on this line? Pretty common response to prevent 9. ...d5 without committing bishop to c4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.29.176.52 (talk) 17:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

old talk

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Excellent Article!! Gave me the simple but solid understanding of what looked like a bizzare opening to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.139.71 (talkcontribs) 29 July 2006

Unencyclopedic?

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What does "unencyclopedic info" supposed to mean. The earlier commentry was lively, and has been replaced by dry prose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.136.124 (talkcontribs) 12 June 2007

"Unencyclopedic" usually refers to original research or personal opinions — see Wikipedia:Five pillars. I suppose it could also refer to unreferenced claims. --ZeroOne (talk | @) 09:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sharpest

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what does sharpest mean in this context?? I'm not sure what word to change it to, but I feel it should be changed, its essential for the article and ambiguous in its meaning —Preceding unsigned comment added by Walker9010 (talkcontribs) 04:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

That is correct chess terminology, and it has a link now. Basically it means that you are playing very hard for a win, even at an increased risk of losing, and tactical versus stratigic. Bubba73 (talk), 04:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Redirect request

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Perhaps there should be a redirect from "Dragon Variation" to this page 91.107.164.135 (talk) 14:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Mistake in the Levenfish Variation Section

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I'm pretty sure the "trap" line mentioned here is wrong. After 6. f4 Bg7 7. e5 Ng4 8. Bb5+ Kf8, black is perhaps unhappy, but he isn't losing a piece. After the wikipedia line, 9.Ne6+??, white just loses his knight after the simple response 9...Bxe6. The game is over, but in black's favor. I could have missed something major here, but otherwise this should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.247.166.35 (talk) 20:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

In the Levenfish Variation 8.Bb5 must have a + being check. --Little bishop (talk) 10:47, 13 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Queen sacrifice by GM Mikhail Golubev

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Can we please have a reference to the game by GM Mikhail Golubev, mentioned in the section Yugoslav Attack with 9.0-0-0, where Golubev plays the queen sacrifice? Who was his opponent? In what year was this game played please? --Joe Gatt (talk) 04:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I checked the databases and Golubev's book and it seems he hasn't actually played the sac himself. The move 11.e5 was introduced by Leonid Milov against Golubev, who got into a worse position after 11...Nd7 12.Bxd4 Nxe5 13.Qe3. It was when analyzing the position later that Golubev found the queen sac, which was apparently also found independently by a "J. Diaz" and first played at the board (as far as I can tell) by Juan Pablo Seminara in the 1997 Argentinian championship. MaxBrowne (talk) 04:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Merge proposal

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I propose merging Sicilian Defence, Accelerated Dragon into this article. The article is somewhat short. Mast303 (talk) 02:58, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

They are fundamentally different openings, with very different styles of play. The traditional accelerated dragon also comes from 2. Nc6, not 2. d6 ( making them different types of sicilian ) 2607:9880:1B40:0:3189:E5E8:1E83:360A (talk) 01:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
The names may have the same word "Dragon" But they are completely different, I disagree. We could get a considerable amount like on the Najdorf article. Jishiboka1 (talk) 04:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Different animals that s/ not be merged. --IHTS (talk) 19:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
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